FR-S or Veloster turbo

[Memphis]

Originally Posted by clevrname

http://www.insideline.com/scion/fr-s...ison-test.html

Similarly priced and powered cars that still do not belong in the same category.

Two different tastes and needs. I have now owned both. Honestly I was not getting the performance out of the FR-S by driving it daily on the street. Had UBER amounts of fun with it on the road course though.

I enjoy the VT as a daily for all of its amenities alone over the FR-S.

[White Shadow]

Originally Posted by moniz

No You'll need to get more years of driving experience to really enjoy cars like this. Getting something lower powered and cheaper. That doesn't mean that can't be fun in their own way. Think the Mazda 2 which is a great little handling car with only 100hp but very light toss able and predictable.

My first car at 19 was '89 Civic Si which back then had only 108hp and something like 98lb/ft of torque. That car was hella fun without getting me into trouble. Think along those lines in a small light low hp car. You'll appreciate a sports car much more once you master the basics in subcompact/compact, and you'll be having fun along the way. Plus like someone said, the insurance on either of those cars at your age will be brutal due to lack of years of driving experience.

Hmm....lots of assumptions in the responses so far. My first car was a Mustang GT. V8, RWD, manual transmission, and plenty of potential for fun (and trouble). Purchased it brand new at the age of 18, without any help from my parents. Got my own loan and my own insurance.

Did I enjoy it? You better believe it. Was it too much car for me back then? Probably, but I respected the car from day one, knowing that it was far too easy to put in a ditch or worse yet into a tree. I have no regrets buying that car and other than a couple of speeding tickets with it, no problems at all.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by Innova

Interesting... My Veloster Turbo definitely feels faster than my brz... Must be all the extra torque.

The reason is simple. Launching! To find out how quick both cars are in daily driving look at C&D 5-60 times.

[Subie]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

The reason is simple. Launching! To find out how quick both cars are in daily driving look at C&D 5-60 times.

Car and Driver says 8 seconds 5-60 for the BRZ.

[White Shadow]

Originally Posted by Subie

Car and Driver says 8 seconds 5-60 for the BRZ, and 9.5 seconds for the Veloster Turbo. The Veloster should feel a good deal slower by that metric.

That's not the Veloster Turbo though. The 9.5 second 5-60 time should be a quite a bit quicker for the Turbo version.

[Subie]

Originally Posted by White Shadow

That's not the Veloster Turbo though. The 9.5 second 5-60 time should be a quite a bit quicker for the Turbo version.

Oops! I searched for the turbo version but landed in the wrong place.

[Memphis]

Originally Posted by Subie

Oops! I searched for the turbo version but landed in the wrong place.

It should be somewhere around 7.5 for the VT. Also, the auto has the best time in the 1/4 mile right now at 15 flat. Supposedly the guy did not launch it hard either. I have not had a chance to take mine to the track yet.

Manual will run somewhere around 14.8 probably.

[SciOnDrifTtSlIdeR]

Is this a serious thread ? Lmfao! Too funny!

[moniz]

Originally Posted by White Shadow

Hmm....lots of assumptions in the responses so far. My first car was a Mustang GT. V8, RWD, manual transmission, and plenty of potential for fun (and trouble). Purchased it brand new at the age of 18, without any help from my parents. Got my own loan and my own insurance.

Did I enjoy it? You better believe it. Was it too much car for me back then? Probably, but I respected the car from day one, knowing that it was far too easy to put in a ditch or worse yet into a tree. I have no regrets buying that car and other than a couple of speeding tickets with it, no problems at all.

Don't know where you live, but around here an 18 year old male, with a brand new V8 muscle car such as a Mustang GT will pay at LEAST $4000/yr for insurance, and that's being conservative. Pretty sure it would be easily north of that. Insurance rates around here, especially for males under 25 is ridiculously expensive, and why you see most of this demographic either scamming/lying (ie: its the parents car ) to drive a sports car, or driving more basic cars until they break through the 25 barrier.

[Justin.b]

The veloster Turbo and the FR-S were really my two options when I bought. In the end, I guess the decision was made by Hyundai because they couldn't deliver the things to their dealers... but I would have chosen the FR-S anyway.

The Veloster is a nice place to sit and has plenty of features. I don't know if I'm just too old, but the thing has too many buttons and screens. The steering wheel looks more like a game controller than a simple turning control.

I had my reservations about the Veloster's suspension, but figured I could make it up with aftermarket parts. The aftermarket is incredibly light for the Veloster. Unless you're shopping for a strut tower brace, your options are incredibly limited.

Since it was obvious that I wasn't going to be able to get the suspension much better than stock, I decided to leave it. Stock suspension is competent, but certainly doesn't ask to be pushed any harder. Combine that with the Veloster's relatively tall height and all the weight of the glass roof up high and it really doesn't feel very dynamic.

-Justin

[White Shadow]

Originally Posted by moniz

Don't know where you live, but around here an 18 year old male, with a brand new V8 muscle car such as a Mustang GT will pay at LEAST $4000/yr for insurance, and that's being conservative. Pretty sure it would be easily north of that. Insurance rates around here, especially for males under 25 is ridiculously expensive, and why you see most of this demographic either scamming/lying (ie: its the parents car ) to drive a sports car, or driving more basic cars until they break through the 25 barrier.

Keep in mind that I was 18 years old about 20 years ago. Back then, I think I was paying like $1200/year for full coverage on my Mustang GT with a $500 deductible. It wasn't exactly cheap, but it was relatively affordable.

[Mr. Man]

Originally Posted by waylonrobert

Agree with Chewie. Plus, you or your parents will be paying through the roof for insurance.

I'm 18 too and thats why I got a Fiat instead of the fr-s. I dont even wanna know how much I would be spending on insurance on the scion. but to compare, my insurance is 150 a month for full coverage with roadside assistance in the Fiat.

[Whiteoutjames]

Driving beside one of these and something came to mind. Remember the car homer designed?

Might have all the interior amenaties but as far as looks goes

[1strwdcar]

If i had a frs or vokescrapper id be dead. I was crazay temper