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Old 11-21-2012, 05:32 PM   #15
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Thanks Hotchkis for the detail, you just confirm we can run your springs whitout any problem to broke something.

2 questions :

Why did you do not give a new bump stop and you ask users to cut the OEM bump?
You have test it and it's working fine?

And, can you tell me if the car get more understeer feeling with you springs?
Those are great questions Mike. A cut OEM bump stop works just fine and there is really no need to go to an aftermarket part. We have performed rigorous track testing with our development vehicle to ensure the durability of our parts. In fact, we took our FR-S straight from the show floor of SEMA to the Global Time Attack Super Lap Battle at Buttonwillow earlier this month.

As for the understeer question, we designed the spring rates to deliver a neutral handling car. The FR-S's spring rates are designed for inherent oversteer while the BRZ is designed for inherent understeer. Our spring rates are 45% stiffer than stock and bridge the gap between the FR-S and BRZ. This is where our adjustable sway bars come in. The front bar has 2 adjustment settings while the rear has 4 settings. This will let you dial in the exact amount of over/understeer you prefer as well as match your roll stiffness to your tire sizes (squared or staggered) and stickiness.
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Old 11-21-2012, 06:25 PM   #16
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Thanks a lot for this explanation, you help us to know the Hotchkis product.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:03 PM   #17
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These are the springs I'm looking for, where were you able to locate them. Were they less than half the price of BC entry level coil springs.
Thank you for any information.
I ordered them from japanparts.com. They cost about twice the price of other aftermarket springs and about half of entry level coilovers.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:34 AM   #18
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I ordered them from japanparts.com. They cost about twice the price of other aftermarket springs and about half of entry level coilovers.
Yeah I saw where they are 127.00 per pair, but I'm sure that shipping and licensing will be high for exporting them.
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:12 AM   #19
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http://www.hotchkis.net/press_release.html?ID=77

BALANCED HANDLING FOR THE FR-S/BRZ

Santa Fe Springs, CA – There is no denying that the Scion FR-S and the Subaru BRZ are the hottest cars of 2012. Lightweight, rear-wheel drive, a responsive chassis, and a low cost of entry make these cars a driver’s dream. Though the two cars are nearly identical, they differ in the tuning of their stock suspensions – the Scion exhibits inherent oversteer while the Subaru has pronounced understeer. In a perfect world these cars would not display either of these characteristics and would be perfectly balanced as they carve from corner to corner. Thankfully, the suspension wizards at Hotchkis Sport Suspension have just released their first in a line of products for the FR-S/BRZ aimed to bring out the true potential of these machines.

Hotchkis engineers spent hours on the track developing sport springs that were comfortable enough for the street but well tuned for track days or your favorite twisty road. These springs offer a mild 1-inch drop front and rear, giving the cars a more aggressive stance, lowering the vehicles’ center of gravity, while maintaining the necessary amount of suspension travel to not upset the already well balanced nature of the FT-86 platform. Increased spring rates, up 45% in the front to 185 lbs/in and up 25% in the rear to 265 lbs/in, reduce suspension bottoming and improve the vehicles’ overall balance.

Like all Hotchkis Performance suspension products, Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ Sport Springs are manufactured in the USA, come with all necessary hardware, and are finished in durable powder coat. This bolt on upgrade can transform your FR-S/BRZ in a single afternoon and is a great first step in the quest to unlock the true potential of the FT-86 platform. Look for more FR-S and BRZ products to debut soon including adjustable front and rear sway bar kits, adjustable camber plates, and more.
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:20 AM   #20
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All is in the balance and in the center of gravity.

But, i love car when he oversteer an little bit.
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:59 AM   #21
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http://www.brz-parts.com/rce-brz-yellow.html

RACECOMP ENGINEERING YELLOW SPRINGS- 13+ SUBARU BRZ & SCION FR-S

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In keeping with the RCE Sport Yellow spring design these springs are stiffer than the stock WRX springs and will lower the vehicle. However they were designed to match the higher damping or the GTWorx Bilstein shocks, so only use these with Bilstein, or other appropriately valved shocks.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:00 PM   #22
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Racecomp say : " However they were designed to match the higher damping or the GTWorx Bilstein shocks, so only use these with Bilstein, or other appropriately valved shocks. "
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Old 11-22-2012, 03:07 PM   #23
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I tried the lowered coils on one dampers and no issues as a daily driver, but much room for improvement is there for track use, if that's what you're after.
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I'm looking to buy some Hotchkis coils and happened to find them here for $174.80 with free shipping.

http://www.customcarscentral.com/hot...FQSf4AodVGsA1Q

Anybody ever dealt with this place ?
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:28 PM   #25
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http://www.brz-parts.com/rce-brz-yellow.html

RACECOMP ENGINEERING YELLOW SPRINGS- 13+ SUBARU BRZ & SCION FR-S

Item #: rce-brz-yellow
Price: $349.00
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Racecomp Engineering Yellow Springs- 13+ Subaru BRZ & Scion FR-S

In keeping with the RCE Sport Yellow spring design these springs are stiffer than the stock WRX springs and will lower the vehicle. However they were designed to match the higher damping or the GTWorx Bilstein shocks, so only use these with Bilstein, or other appropriately valved shocks.
That's the wrong price and description... that's for our WRX version.

Check our vendor thread or our own website.

EDIT: look here http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...71&postcount=1

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Old 11-23-2012, 12:58 PM   #26
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Good to know thanks Andrew, this why it's important to check and verify where you buy your aftermarket pieces.
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I'm looking to buy some Hotchkis coils and happened to find them here for $174.80 with free shipping.

http://www.customcarscentral.com/hot...FQSf4AodVGsA1Q

Anybody ever dealt with this place ?
They actually come out to $166.06 after the 5% off for Black Friday sale. What a deal.


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Youll save more in the long run to just get coilovers
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