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no_name · 08-26-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

200hp, 2900lbs, 25k? Nobody will buy it. Right next to it in the Subaru dealership will be a WRX that has 265hp, 3100lbs, for the same price. Or they could get a GTI, MS3, GC, V6 mustang, Miata, the list goes on and on and on. And that's not even getting into the used cars you can get for 25k. It better shit rainbows and cook me breakfast if it costs 25k.

200hp, 2700lbs, 19k makes a whole lot more sense.

The Gen Coupe is 210hp, 3300lb, 22k and it's a Hyundai. A 200hp, 2600lb Toyota could very well cost you 25k.

tranzformer · 08-26-2011, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by no_name

The Gen Coupe is 210hp, 3300lb, 22k and it's a Hyundai. A 200hp, 2600lb Toyota could very well cost you 25k.

True but the Hyundai also has a turbo engine as well as a 10/100k warranty that needs to be paid for with the price. GC is also substantially bigger in size as well as a turbo engine which adds to the weight.

MiguelAE86 · 08-26-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by no_name

The Gen Coupe is 210hp, 3300lb, 22k and it's a Hyundai. A 200hp, 2600lb Toyota could very well cost you 25k.

But you have to understand, Mr.Toyoda and Mr.Tada-san are very well aware of the Genesis (i'm sure, after all, it's competition) and they have to stand out, so pricing it lower will be a biggie, because (also) it will have LESS, and in this case where they want it to re-symbolize the AE86, it's also MORE for the obvious reasons, less things, less weight, less price. Capiche?

jay4prez · 08-26-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by no_name

The Gen Coupe is 210hp, 3300lb, 22k and it's a Hyundai. A 200hp, 2600lb Toyota could very well cost you 25k.

When you guys keep saying things like this toy's gonna be like, ah, ok they're willing to pay 25k, lets give it to them at 25k.

Hell Give me 19k!!!! Steelies, no 6 cd changer, hell i dont even need an ac (well maybe)

Make this car affordable (to me)

TeckniX · 08-26-2011, 05:44 PM

I don't see how a 2l NA would be $25k - That's on par with what the Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-Spec cost - But then again that's a 2.0L Turbo engine pushing 220hp (premium fuel) with 6spd manual trans, brembo brakes and tuned suspension.

At least with the hyundai you'd almost have the potential to have better hp gains. The NA, although pushing some good power is sort of a kick in the nuts.

I agree that they want this to bring back the fun of the AE86 and thus needs to be a 'cheaper' car than what's around - I agree with a good base model for $19-$20k (steelies, lower HP 190hp, base corolla suspension, corolla brakes) and the sport tuned one around $23k (lsd, brembo brakes, tuned suspension, more HP 200+)

JDMike · 08-26-2011, 05:48 PM

yea I wouldn't mind paying 6000-8000 more.

tranzformer · 08-26-2011, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jay4prez

When you guys keep saying things like this toy's gonna be like, ah, ok they're willing to pay 25k, lets give it to them at 25k.

Hell Give me 19k!!!! Steelies, no 6 cd changer, hell i dont even need an ac (well maybe)

Make this car affordable (to me)

Truth spoken right here.

tree fingers · 08-26-2011, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MiguelAE86

But you have to understand, Mr.Toyoda and Mr.Tada-san are very well aware of the Genesis (i'm sure, after all, it's competition) and they have to stand out, so pricing it lower will be a biggie, because (also) it will have LESS, and in this case where they want it to re-symbolize the AE86, it's also MORE for the obvious reasons, less things, less weight, less price. Capiche?

Haha! You must been unfamiliar with how the automotive industry works. In terms of cost, light sports cars typically cost more than heavier sports cars, especially considering higher end brands.

Subaru, if you're listening, I'll pay ~30,000$ for a well sorted turbo BRZ, but please reconsider the name.

PAImportTuner · 08-26-2011, 06:42 PM

"Mini-Maserati" he's spot on with that description.

MiguelAE86 · 08-26-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PAImportTuner

"Mini-Maserati" he's spot on with that description.

would you mind saying WHICH Maserati it's mostly like?

zigzagz94 · 08-26-2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MiguelAE86

would you mind saying WHICH Maserati it's mostly like?

This so we can start getting some p-chops going

tranzformer · 08-26-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PAImportTuner

"Mini-Maserati" he's spot on with that description.

Nice, haven't seen you around lately. Did you go to the Subaru event in Chicago?

Sabastian · 08-26-2011, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MiguelAE86

would you mind saying WHICH Maserati it's mostly like?

Just look at the mule. It doesn't take a whole lot of imagination to see what he was talking about. The mean-looking headlights and gaping mouth are pretty similar.

Edit: Now with a picture that (hopefully) works

Marrk · 08-27-2011, 12:23 AM

Road and Track said approx. 3,000 lbs., too.

At 3,000 libs., this thing is dead on arrival.

What happened to the good old days when everyone was bandying about the figure of 2500 lbs. or less?

08-26-2011, 06:42 PM	#51
PAImportTuner Turbo Mafia Presidente Join Date: May 2011 Drives: U Mad? Location: East Coast US Posts: 526 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	"Mini-Maserati" he's spot on with that description. __________________ "the FR-S is going to have to give me a blowjob every time I touch the steering wheel if all it can make me smile with is the handling." - Maxim

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08-26-2011, 05:44 PM	#47
TeckniX Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Drives: Altezza Location: United States Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't see how a 2l NA would be $25k - That's on par with what the Genesis Coupe 2.0T R-Spec cost - But then again that's a 2.0L Turbo engine pushing 220hp (premium fuel) with 6spd manual trans, brembo brakes and tuned suspension. At least with the hyundai you'd almost have the potential to have better hp gains. The NA, although pushing some good power is sort of a kick in the nuts. I agree that they want this to bring back the fun of the AE86 and thus needs to be a 'cheaper' car than what's around - I agree with a good base model for $19-$20k (steelies, lower HP 190hp, base corolla suspension, corolla brakes) and the sport tuned one around $23k (lsd, brembo brakes, tuned suspension, more HP 200+)

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JDMike Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: P11 Location: USA Posts: 24 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	yea I wouldn't mind paying 6000-8000 more.

08-27-2011, 12:23 AM	#56
Marrk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: Honda Fit Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 722 Thanked 125 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Road and Track said approx. 3,000 lbs., too. At 3,000 libs., this thing is dead on arrival. What happened to the good old days when everyone was bandying about the figure of 2500 lbs. or less?

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