Not stalling?

[grgonium]

So, i left the dealer last night and he told me something interesting.

If you come off the clutch slowly in gear, without any gas, you can creep forward without having the foot on the clutch. Found that interesting enough to try. Low and behold, it works.

Has anyone else tried or heard about this? I tried to search but couldn't find anything.

Now the 2nd attempt didnt work (oops) while moving at slow speeds. Looks like it needs to be from a complete stop, with brake engaged for a few seconds. Haven't read the owners manual yet, so not sure if its there.

[White64Goat]

Am I missing something here? You can pretty much do that with any clutch car. Are you talking about a hill-holder feature possibly where the car doesn't roll backwards when you take your foot off the brake?

[Kimsey47]

Perhaps a new Manny Tranny driver?

[CaptainSlow]

Yeah, that's normal. The GTO has enough torque to do it in 3rd...and I think I was able to do it in 4th in my old xA (gear ratio and weight). Also, not advised for long periods of time...slow/partial engagement of the clutch is going to eat up the organic material on the clutch surface faster than if you just engage it and go...but perfectly fine for inching up at a red light or something

[raul]

Any manual car should do that. Your car's idle RPM is enough to propel it forward if you engage the gear slowly enough. Same reason why Automatics creep forward when you put them on Drive gear. Brake doesn't have to be engaged, you just have to be precise. In the FR-S release the clutch slowly until you feel the transmission engage (car will shake slightly, RPM will drop slightly), when you feel that, release even slower.

[CaptainSlow]

Again, though, I caution that the slower you engage the clutch disc, the faster it will wear out. It has springs built in to absorb some of the shock when engaged normally...those springs do little when you're letting the flywheel spin against the clutch with it partially engaged. I'd say it's fine when you're trying to just creep ahead, but I wouldn't make a habit of it other than that.

[Gen]

Originally Posted by raul

Any manual car should do that. Your car's idle RPM is enough to propel it forward if you engage the gear slowly enough. Same reason why Automatics creep forward when you put them on Drive gear. Brake doesn't have to be engaged, you just have to be precise. In the FR-S release the clutch slowly until you feel the transmission engage (car will shake slightly, RPM will drop slightly), when you feel that, release even slower.

This...it's actually the technique I use to teach new manual drivers so they can feel the engagement point. The "release the clutch and give it gas!" advice to a new driver always makes me cringe.

[raul]

Originally Posted by CaptainSlow

Again, though, I caution that the slower you engage the clutch disc, the faster it will wear out. It has springs built in to absorb some of the shock when engaged normally...those springs do little when you're letting the flywheel spin against the clutch with it partially engaged. I'd say it's fine when you're trying to just creep ahead, but I wouldn't make a habit of it other than that.

Yeah, it's actually more of a fast-slow-fast motion when you get some experience. Fast until you feel engagement, slow down for just a moment until you have some forward movement, and then release quicker from that point. The whole entire motion should be less than 2 sec.

[empower-auto]

welcome to manual transmission land.

[Guff]

What you're finding, my friend, is the biting point.

Thats when your clutch begins to contact the flywheel. And so, you begin to move because you are now effectively connecting the engine and trans.

But don't stay at the biting point, because the clutch isn't fully engaging the flywheel, and the flywheel is slowly scratching off that precious friction material that you put down so much moneyz for.

That's when you begin to gas and go!

Have fun driving standard!

[dsmx17]

It's like the first time a magician pulled a rabbit from a hat. How exciting.

[BuBlake]

Originally Posted by CaptainSlow

Yeah, that's normal. The GTO has enough torque to do it in 3rd...and I think I was able to do it in 4th in my old xA (gear ratio and weight). Also, not advised for long periods of time...slow/partial engagement of the clutch is going to eat up the organic material on the clutch surface faster than if you just engage it and go...but perfectly fine for inching up at a red light or something

Must be fun to have that much torque... I almost bought a used GTO with 600whp, but instead opted for the more economical choice... I'll admit, there is fun that only low-end torque can provide.

[phattyduck]

Originally Posted by Gen

This...it's actually the technique I use to teach new manual drivers so they can feel the engagement point. The "release the clutch and give it gas!" advice to a new driver always makes me cringe.

All these "I don't know how to drive a manual trans" threads make me lose faith in today's parents. Why aren't parent's teaching their kids about real world skills? Ugh. Next lesson is basic car maintenance (light bulbs, batteries and fluid changes)...

And yes, this is the second step in teaching somebody manual transmission. The first is to drill into the student's head - before you do anything or if anything goes wrong, push in the clutch pedal. (before you start the car - push in the clutch, before you put it in gear - push in the clutch, if the car starts making an odd noise - push in the clutch, if it starts bucking - push in the clutch, want to change gears? push in the clutch... etc.)

-Charlie

[TRBO2NR]

Almost any manual car will do that...