Mini NSX

[MiguelAE86]

Toyota will beat them to it with the next MR2. But first, as we all know from Mr. Tada-San, the Supra is next in line

MR2 will ride on the success of the FR-S and New Supra.

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by Wes B.

They may have made a V8, but it didn't make it in to any of their automobiles. Fail!

serial mentioned that Honda never made a V8. I'm just saying that they did regardless if it ever made it into a production vehicle. Honda can build some serious shit even better than Toyota (flame suit on).

[RaceR]

Originally Posted by RRnold

Honda can build some serious shit even better than Toyota (flame suit on).

I agree. But is long as they keep making boring cars and only fancy concepts or supercars. It does not matter what they can build or draw. Its what they make that counts! Honda needs to learn that. Or else all their good history will slowly fade away and be forgotten...

[Dark]

Originally Posted by RaceR

I agree. But is long as they keep making boring cars and only fancy concepts or supercars. It does not matter what they can build or draw. Its what they make that counts! Honda needs to learn that. Or else all their good history will slowly fade away and be forgotten...

They are too busy developing private jet.

[Wes B.]

Originally Posted by RRnold

serial mentioned that Honda never made a V8. I'm just saying that they did regardless if it ever made it into a production vehicle. Honda can build some serious shit even better than Toyota (flame suit on).

But what good is it if it's never utilized?

[blur]

Just throw this thing in there:

2.8 liter V6 ... 850 hp / 612 tq @ 5800 rpms. 400hp /400 tq @ 2500 rpms

Or the 3.7 HPD used here:

the heart of the HPD Desert Pilot is its 3.7-liter Honda V-6 engine, a racing-modified development of the alloy V-6 found in a variety of Honda and Acura automobiles and trucks. The mid-engined powerplant is located just behind the central driver's seat, providing more than 400 horsepower to all four wheels.

[serialk11r]

Originally Posted by MiguelAE86

Toyota will beat them to it with the next MR2. But first, as we all know from Mr. Tada-San, the Supra is next in line

MR2 will ride on the success of the FR-S and New Supra.

Well, that's what people are hoping at least Toyota isn't exactly offering more than Honda is right now, their "sporty offering" in compact cars is the 2AR-FE, the same way Honda's "sporty offering" is the K24. Honda at least made K20s until a year ago, Toyota stopped making 2ZZ-GEs long before then.

Originally Posted by RRnold

serial mentioned that Honda never made a V8. I'm just saying that they did regardless if it ever made it into a production vehicle. Honda can build some serious shit even better than Toyota (flame suit on).

Yea I don't think that one counts :P
But yes Honda can build some serious shit, it is pretty crazy how many K20s they built, and the F20C/C30A/C32B are well, serious shit

I guess Toyota did do the 1LR though :P

[zygrene]

No stick and three pedals = dealbreaker. Also, the AWD system had better be as good as the R8's... No oversteer = another dealbreaker.

Hopefully the upcoming RX-7 and 240Z don't make these mistakes.

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by RaceR

I agree. But is long as they keep making boring cars and only fancy concepts or supercars. It does not matter what they can build or draw. Its what they make that counts! Honda needs to learn that. Or else all their good history will slowly fade away and be forgotten...

Originally Posted by Wes B.

But what good is it if it's never utilized?

I know tell me about it! It's like meeting a hot chick, bringing her back to your place and then she tells you she just wants to cuddle.

Originally Posted by serialk11r

Yea I don't think that one counts :P
But yes Honda can build some serious shit, it is pretty crazy how many K20s they built, and the F20C/C30A/C32B are well, serious shit

I guess Toyota did do the 1LR though :P

Honda has turned into the Toyota of the 2000's.

[RaceR]

Seems like most manufacturers are loosing some of their earlier strengths and adapting to the mass market. More profit there it seems. Car enthusiasts are not worth that much.
Nice to see that one manufacturer sees an opportunity and starts making some decent sport cars again (Toyota). So far its seems like worldwide sales have been way higher than expected, so that is a good thing.

But im skeptical that Honda will jump on that wagon. They will probably be happy with future NSX and future Civic Type R.
Hopefully a more affordable RWD baby NSX will be made, but until it sees the light, im skeptical.

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

Well, that's what people are hoping at least Toyota isn't exactly offering more than Honda is right now, their "sporty offering" in compact cars is the 2AR-FE, the same way Honda's "sporty offering" is the K24. Honda at least made K20s until a year ago, Toyota stopped making 2ZZ-GEs long before then.

Infact the last exige to roll off the line with a 2zz-ge was given to toyota as a "thanks" for the long partnership. so production stopped this year for the 2zz-ge.
The 2zz-ge was initially a test run for MMC cylinder wall coating. A tech that was tested in the 2zz-ge for approval in the LFA Wish i could find the article about it!
its a coating that reduced the friction of the engine so it can rev faster, and MMC is usually but not al the time lighter

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

Infact the last exige to roll off the line with a 2zz-ge was given to toyota as a "thanks" for the long partnership. so production stopped this year for the 2zz-ge.
The 2zz-ge was initially a test run for MMC cylinder wall coating. A tech that was tested in the 2zz-ge for approval in the LFA Wish i could find the article about it!
its a coating that reduced the friction of the engine so it can rev faster, and MMC is usually but not al the time lighter

Metal matrix composite. I think they used it on the 2ZZ so they could port the shit out of the head and not need press in valve seats that would take up space.

[serialk11r]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Metal matrix composite. I think they used it on the 2ZZ so they could port the shit out of the head and not need press in valve seats that would take up space.

I just pulled up the 2ZZ paper again, the reason they used MMC liner is so they could keep the same bore spacing but have thinner uh...bore wall? Is that what it's called? They have a chart that basically says "MMC > everything else in every aspect".

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

I just pulled up the 2ZZ paper again, the reason they used MMC liner is so they could keep the same bore spacing but have thinner uh...bore wall? Is that what it's called? They have a chart that basically says "MMC > everything else in every aspect".

its for lower weight reduction, lower friction, better seal to prevent blow-by. good testing platform for high rev testing vs wear, the LFA's engine uses it and its one of the only toyota engines that do