New FT-86 or old C6, z4m, etc..

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

Remember this, the US gov't failing does not mean the country, states, and economy is going to fail, but the US Dollar losing value means a painful transition time over to a new currency or a different system.

Is there still talk of the "Amero" currency for North America? I remember heading a lot of rumors/conspiracy theories several years back but nothing since. Not sure if a common NA union (especially opening up the borders even more to Mexico) would fly with most Americans.

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

Anyway I think your castle/compound/fortress/bunker w/e you call your home is far more important than a new car. And of course adequate security to protect said estate. I also believe self-reliance is a matter of pride. So call me the crazy one here, I'm not suggesting a zombie Apocalypse or a Chinese takeover/invasion .

I think a castle/compound/fortress/bunker is almost useless in an urban/suburban environment. The amount of resources that would be required to secure it and your family would be too great. If their was rioting and people heard you had food/water/precious goods, it would be very hard to secure it against a mob of several hundred people. Now if you live out in a rural area, it would be a bit easier to defend as you wouldn't have the population density as cities do. I guess if you pooled your resources with several families/friends, it would be easier to create a more secured environment. As the rioting in London showed, do not underestimate the mob mentality even if they only have rocks, malakoff cocktail and their feet.

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by Giccin

Big brother is watching. He's always watching....

Anyways, with the stock market crash. Buying anything big around this time is a bit risky.

Reloading is a legitimate hobby . And household security is encouraged in the US if anything.

Buying a house or land is always risky. Just don't get a variable interest rate loan, ever.

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Is there still talk of the "Amero" currency for North America? I remember heading a lot of rumors/conspiracy theories several years back but nothing since. Not sure if a common NA union (especially opening up the borders even more to Mexico) would fly with most Americans.





I think a castle/compound/fortress/bunker is almost useless in an urban/suburban environment. The amount of resources that would be required to secure it and your family would be too great. If their was rioting and people heard you had food/water/precious goods, it would be very hard to secure it against a mob of several hundred people. Now if you live out in a rural area, it would be a bit easier to defend as you wouldn't have the population density as cities do. I guess if you pooled your resources with several families/friends, it would be easier to create a more secured environment. As the rioting in London showed, do not underestimate the mob mentality even if they only have rocks, malakoff cocktail and their feet.

You're on the wrong forum to find out about the supposed NA union and the Amero . I do know there was a treaty signed a couple years ago(Bush Jr.) and it basically signaled an intent to combine NA markets. Which was the first step to forming the European Union back when it was just a conspiracy/rumor.

Tranz, I was kidding about the different defensive structures.

I have a house in the country, albeit still under construction. I feel that living in the city is not a security/safe decision. It's actually more dangerous statistically. Living in the city is purely for economics(more, better jobs, lower cost of living) or convenience IMHO. The only thing I really miss is high speed, no limit internet. That and living in a finished home...but anyway.

So what are you two going to do about a house and a car in the next couple of years?

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

You're on the wrong forum to find out about the supposed NA union and the Amero . I do know there was a treaty signed a couple years ago(Bush Jr.) and it basically signaled an intent to combine NA markets. Which was the first step to forming the European Union back when it was just a conspiracy/rumor.

HA! I'm not mistaken, this is FT where we talk about gold, home purchasing, Hideyuki Toyotomi and Emperor Anastasius I of the Byzantine Empire in a thread about the 86. No my friend, I come to here to get all my questions answered, it is the all knowing forum.

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

I have a house in the country, albeit still under construction. I feel that living in the city is not a security/safe decision. It's actually more dangerous statistically. Living in the city is purely for economics(more, better jobs, lower cost of living) or convenience IMHO. The only thing I really miss is high speed, no limit internet.

So what are you guys going to do about a house and a car in the next couple of years?

Yeah lack of high speed internet in a rural setting would suck. I guess you could try and deal with satellite internet but I haven't heard good things about it. Guess it would be better than dial up if you can't get high speed cable.

Yes, living in a rural setting is probably safer in general except for those times when you have an ischemic stroke/heart attack/blunt force trauma and the closest regional medical center is 1.5-2hrs away by car or a 30min LifeFlight away (once they pick you up). But outside of the medical issues, I would agree rural settings tend to be safer and give you the opportunity to set up your own well and garden for food.

I will be getting a new car in the next couple of years. Hopefully the FT86 if it meets my expectations or the new WRX/STI. My car is still kicking strong, so no need to buy a new car just for the hell of it. My wife and I have saved up a nice chunk for the down payment on a house. However we are still renting as we will be moving again in a few years for work/school. I personally don't think we have seen the bottom of the housing market. Once we are ready to settle down we will probably find a place to buy. But as of now we are happy that we are renting in case something happens to one of us and we wouldn't be able to cover the mortgage. It is just a bit disheartening when you think about how much you pay in rent a month and how far that would go towards a monthly mortgage.

[serialk11r]

Whoa AKs from China? I assume these are bought from other countries, as guns are illegal in China, but they do sell weapons to other militaries. Only the army and special police forces have guns. So is this black market?

[Matador]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

A waste of gold when lead is far cheaper/easier to acquire. Gold will always have value as a commonly accepted trade good. Plus you need gunpowder for bullets. Reloading shells is what you would look into for ammo instead of melting down precious metals. We don't use lead ball for ammo anymore .

Well that kinda went over your head didn't it?

p.s. And what exactly do you plan to reload with? Spent shells and air?

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

HA! I'm not mistaken, this is FT where we talk about gold, home purchasing, Hideyuki Toyotomi and Emperor Anastasius I of the Byzantine Empire in a thread about the 86. No my friend, I come to here to get all my questions answered, it is the all knowing forum.





Yeah lack of high speed internet in a rural setting would suck. I guess you could try and deal with satellite internet but I haven't heard good things about it. Guess it would be better than dial up if you can't get high speed cable.

Yes, living in a rural setting is probably safer in general except for those times when you have an ischemic stroke/heart attack/blunt force trauma and the closest regional medical center is 1.5-2hrs away by car or a 30min LifeFlight away (once they pick you up). But outside of the medical issues, I would agree rural settings tend to be safer and give you the opportunity to set up your own well and garden for food.

I will be getting a new car in the next couple of years. Hopefully the FT86 if it meets my expectations or the new WRX/STI. My car is still kicking strong, so no need to buy a new car just for the hell of it. My wife and I have saved up a nice chunk for the down payment on a house. However we are still renting as we will be moving again in a few years for work/school. I personally don't think we have seen the bottom of the housing market. Once we are ready to settle down we will probably find a place to buy. But as of now we are happy that we are renting in case something happens to one of us and we wouldn't be able to cover the mortgage. It is just a bit disheartening when you think about how much you pay in rent a month and how far that would go towards a monthly mortgage.

It's like a multi thread offtopic forum :|.

And you're MARRIED!?

Originally Posted by serialk11r

Whoa AKs from China? I assume these are bought from other countries, as guns are illegal in China, but they do sell weapons to other militaries. Only the army and special police forces have guns. So is this black market?

Just a comparison. It would not be possible to import them legally into the US due to the import bans.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

And you're MARRIED!?

Yup yup. Got a little guy on the way too. Will be joining WoW in the no sleep at night crowd soon.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

You need shells and gun powder either way :|.

There is powderless ammo (not that you would ever use that for self defense).

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Well that kinda went over your head didn't it?

p.s. And what exactly do you plan to reload with? Spent shells and air?

lol, did you really expect a serious response? Gold bullets man!

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Yup yup. Got a little guy on the way too. Will be joining WoW in the no sleep at night crowd soon.

Yikes. What am I doing with my life!

[Want.FR-S]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Yup yup. Got a little guy on the way too. Will be joining WoW in the no sleep at night crowd soon.

Congradulation!! Now you need to learn all the tricks of wrapping and holding baby, and changing diapers.

Welcome to the club!!

[Allch Chcar]

This topic quickly went from barely ontopic to BTW Congratulations Tranz.

[tranzformer]

^ Thanks guys. I am excited.

[Abflug]

go for the house!

Originally Posted by tranzformer

HA! I'm not mistaken, this is FT where we talk about gold, home purchasing, Hideyuki Toyotomi and Emperor Anastasius I of the Byzantine Empire in a thread about the 86. No my friend, I come to here to get all my questions answered, it is the all knowing forum.

:happy0180: and btw congrats!!