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Old 11-05-2012, 11:18 AM   #85
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In my experience with S/Cs, a tune isn't usually the first thing you do. Most times a smaller pulley will do the trick with minimum work. And the ECUs can handle it easily.
with our cars a sc is useless without a tune...
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:25 AM   #86
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with our cars a sc is useless without a tune...
I meant after the supercharger is installed intially. Same went for the tC, the ECU had to be reflashed. Sorry, I should have been more specific.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:27 AM   #87
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I meant after the supercharger is installed intially. Same went for the tC, the ECU had to be reflashed. Sorry, I should have been more specific.
I understood that an initial tune would be done, just wasn't sure if getting one from like Visconti might drag a bit more out of it
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:30 AM   #88
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I understood that an initial tune would be done, just wasn't sure if getting one from like Visconti might drag a bit more out of it
Anything is possible with a good tune. All I know is the others that got the tC S/C'd never really went much beyond getting a smaller pulley put on to increase the boost. You could put a piggyback on and fine-tune it, but the reflashed tune from Toyota apparently worked pretty well.
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:17 PM   #89
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To inject some reality - you'll be damn lucky if you see a 20hp bump in a very conservative setup.
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I'm sticking with my original estimate - 20-30hp increase for about $3-5k. Far lower than everyone's expectations, but easy for Toyota to warranty without worrying about various supporting components failing.
If I keep replying to you will your original estimate continue to grow? Perhaps 30-40hp next go around?

I completely understand your point. I'm simply disagreeing with it.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:43 PM   #90
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I go back to one of my previous posts in this thread--the tC, with a higher displacement and lower compression, on a dyno, gave me about a 70-80 hp gain, resulting at 205 at the wheels. Stock '07 tC was at 161 at the crank, if I am not mistaken. And it cost me a bit above $4k.

So, it stands to reason (and I am just guessing LIKE EVERYONE ELSE here) that 250 at the crank is a complete possibility. And because that this car is a "Step up" from the tC would make me think that it would be between $5-6k. Thats my guess, and I am sticking to it.
No argument here - a SC can definitely add a lot on this car. It's never been my argument otherwise about what is possible - only about what is realistic considering the close competitors of this car. If they make it "off road only", the sky is the limit - if they want to warranty it... Set really low expectations.

Consider this though - knock 100 lbs off and add 20hp and this will have a similar power/weight than an S2000.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:57 AM   #91
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Nice pic, here we see people from TRD, Bullet Superchargers and Sprintex, what do you think there were talking about ...........

At SEMA of course
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Nice pic, here we see people from TRD, Bullet Superchargers and Sprintex, what do you think there were talking about ...........

At SEMA of course


Is that the same supercharger as the innovate motorsports twin screw kit?
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Is that the same supercharger as the innovate motorsports twin screw kit?
That is the innovate kit.
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That is the innovate kit.
http://www.bulletcars.com/latest-new...y121013-115358


Ok according to the Bullet Supercharger website:
"On the 5th of September an agreement was reached between Bullet Cars and Sprintex ltd. Sprintex will manufacture the Bullet designed FT86 Supercharger system for distribution world wide. Bullet Cars will maintain exclusive distributorship for Australia and New Zealand. "

So I'm assuming Innovate Motorsports is importing the Sprintex kits for the U.S.

if that's true and TRD is posibly talking to Sprintex/Bullet about licensing their kit...what happens to the Innovate Motorsports kit once the factory TRD one comes out. They would basically be the same thing except one has a factory warranty and probably makes less HP.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:13 PM   #95
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If anything, TRD would contract sprintex to make their blower and would do the manufacturing of everything else in house. Cheaper for them that way since they have the resources of a mega corp behind them, unlike sprintex.

Who supplied the blowers for past TRD kits? Eaton?

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If anything, TRD would contract sprintex to make their blower and would do the manufacturing of everything else in house. Cheaper for them that way since they have the resources of a mega corp behind them, unlike sprintex.

Who supplied the blowers for past TRD kits? Eaton?

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This is more likely the case.

Alternatively the people in that picture may have been talking amongst themselves simply because they have worked / are working on PD superchargers... Just having a friendly discussion or standing together for a "Supercharger Group Photo"
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damn you guys are really spreading rumors fast huh! the assumptions
sound great but lets wait for official announcements.
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