TRD Supercharger for FR-S "Confirmed"

[wrmathis]

There are plenty of people making good power with the TRD S/C on the Tacoma. I have one and felt a huge jump in just daily driving.after the pulley swap it was even better

[subatoy]

why the are we talking about the power a truck is making?
COMPLETELY different engines, transmission, weight, purposes.
seriously?!

[ill86]

Originally Posted by brewksy

Uh... Welcome to real life? Sorry it's so disappointing.

As for power expectations - I am absolutely stunned that some of you are "expecting" 230+ whp. Have you guys ever bought a factory SC'd car before at this price point??? Trust me, there is no way on this planet that it will make anything north of 230.

To inject some reality - you'll be damn lucky if you see a 20hp bump in a very conservative setup. It might be fun to banter about how stout this engine is but TRD can't afford to have a customer's engine explode because of their tuning so their tolerances for testing will be tight. Also, expect to pay a lot too.

The aftermarket has always done better than factory applications because they don't worry as much about reliability as manufacturers (no insult intended to the aftermarket).

Trust you? Why? Do you know something we don't?

TRD SC will put out more than 20hp. That's rediculous.

HKS was conservative with their kit and made 230 initially. Expect closer to 250 at release.

[wrmathis]

Originally Posted by subatoy

why the are we talking about the power a truck is making?
COMPLETELY different engines, transmission, weight, purposes.
seriously?!

People are dismissing the TRD sc when they have made decent sc's.

Might be a good idea to actually see what it does before saying it won't make crap

[ill86]

Ah, forums... Unsubscribing.

[Surok]

honestly i reckon we will see like 20-30 hp too from the trd SC.. it will be up to you to put a bigger pulley on it though

look at all the past TRD SC .. look at their gains,.

[brewksy]

Originally Posted by ill86

Trust you? Why? Do you know something we don't?

TRD SC will put out more than 20hp. That's rediculous.

HKS was conservative with their kit and made 230 initially. Expect closer to 250 at release.

HKS is a tuning company so I don't see the relevance. I guess we'll find out who is ridiculous when it's announced. As Surok says, using a smaller pulley+tune will sacrifice warranties for higher power but obviously will be abundantly available to anyone that wants to.

[ill86]

Originally Posted by brewksy

HKS is a tuning company so I don't see the relevance.

The relevance being HKS has always been conservative with their Rotrex style superchargers; And they are not using both injection methods due to tuning/ fuel delivery choice. Yet, HKS still increased output by approx. 60hp at the wheels.

TRD is not limited in this regard. 20hp increase is, in my opinion, a ridiculous estimate. As someone else pointed out already, header back + tune will net you that and then some.

[brewksy]

Originally Posted by ill86

The relevance being HKS has always been conservative with their Rotrex style superchargers; And they are not using both injection methods due to tuning/ fuel delivery choice. Yet, HKS still increased output by approx. 60hp at the wheels.

TRD is not limited in this regard. 20hp increase is, in my opinion, a ridiculous estimate. As someone else pointed out already, header back + tune will net you that and then some.

I don't think you get my point - I'm not saying that they "can't" tune the car to have 250hp, I'm saying they won't. Tuning your car to have the hp/weight ratio of a $50-car with $25k-car components is not a formula any manufacturer is going to deal with.

I'm sticking with my original estimate - 20-30hp increase for about $3-5k. Far lower than everyone's expectations, but easy for Toyota to warranty without worrying about various supporting components failing.

[VSGTS14]

the only good trd supercharger i have experienced is the one for the tacoma..holy crap is it awesome..and the numbers they make the 5.7L for the tundra is just obnoxious.


i hope this one really performs and makes it worth our while.

[gmookher]

well what does it tell you all that TRD is releasing a SC not a Turbo....


(let this just sit here as a post< I'm not subscribed)

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by brewksy

I don't think you get my point - I'm not saying that they "can't" tune the car to have 250hp, I'm saying they won't. Tuning your car to have the hp/weight ratio of a $50-car with $25k-car components is not a formula any manufacturer is going to deal with.

I'm sticking with my original estimate - 20-30hp increase for about $3-5k. Far lower than everyone's expectations, but easy for Toyota to warranty without worrying about various supporting components failing.

I go back to one of my previous posts in this thread--the tC, with a higher displacement and lower compression, on a dyno, gave me about a 70-80 hp gain, resulting at 205 at the wheels. Stock '07 tC was at 161 at the crank, if I am not mistaken. And it cost me a bit above $4k.

So, it stands to reason (and I am just guessing LIKE EVERYONE ELSE here) that 250 at the crank is a complete possibility. And because that this car is a "Step up" from the tC would make me think that it would be between $5-6k. Thats my guess, and I am sticking to it.

[finch1750]

I'm a bit new to SCs as zi came from turbo, and zi know the pulley has a lot of control over the output. But if the TRD unit came out putting down 30hp, could an aftermarket tune get more out of the setup?

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by finch1750

I'm a bit new to SCs as zi came from turbo, and zi know the pulley has a lot of control over the output. But if the TRD unit came out putting down 30hp, could an aftermarket tune get more out of the setup?

In my experience with S/Cs, a tune isn't usually the first thing you do. Most times a smaller pulley will do the trick with minimum work. And the ECUs can handle it easily.