Vortech Supercharger

[subatoy]

give us a price already. and keep in mind Innovate peroformance kit starts at $3,500

[jadewbj]

I think this kit will come in around $6,000. The Vortech S2k kit is right at $6k as is the 350Z kit. Can't see them getting it below $5k.

[The Slow One]

Originally Posted by jadewbj

I think this kit will come in around $6,000. The Vortech S2k kit is right at $6k as is the 350Z kit. Can't see them getting it below $5k.

s2k tuner kit was around $4500. If they offer a tuner kit as well for these cars, I will gladly buy the tuner kit.

[2forme]

Originally Posted by jadewbj

I think this kit will come in around $6,000. The Vortech S2k kit is right at $6k as is the 350Z kit. Can't see them getting it below $5k.

That price would lose me (and probably more) as a customer. I can't justify it when Innovate and AVO are both under 4k.

[JPxM0Dz]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

From related thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21048










http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...sema-show.html

STILL holding out on numbers!?!?!

Damn she's hot! The supercharger looks awesome too

[jadewbj]

Originally Posted by 2forme

That price would lose me (and probably more) as a customer. I can't justify it when Innovate and AVO are both under 4k.

I kind of agree, but I just don't see them dropping that much off the normal price of their kits since all the parts are basically the same and the demand should be close to the same also.

Neither AVO or Innovate have the name recognition that Vortech does, so they will feel they can charge more.

[2forme]

Originally Posted by jadewbj

I kind of agree, but I just don't see them dropping that much off the normal price of their kits since all the parts are basically the same and the demand should be close to the same also.

Neither AVO or Innovate have the name recognition that Vortech does, so they will feel they can charge more.

Well, they better hope it dynos well...

[ATL BRZ]

Perrin updated this thread...

Originally Posted by PERRIN_Jeff

PN DESCRIPTION PRICE
4TF218-014L 2013 FR-S/BRZ Complete System with V-3 H67BC Supercharger and Air/Air Interooler, Black Finish, Includes fuel system upgrades and ECU reflash device and Calibration (Ship Date TBA) $TBA

4TF218-114L 2013 FR-S/BRZ Tuner Kit with V-3 H67BC Supercharger and Air/Air Charge Cooler, Black Finish. Tuner Kits do not include fuel management or tuning. (Ship Date December 2012) $4295

It's safe to assume that the TBA price with tune and fuel upgrades will be over $5000. What does everything think about that?

That said, it'll be very interesting to see the $/whp gain with this kit...

Originally Posted by PERRIN_Jeff

First pull is done! Lets just say 30 WHP gain is way low.

[ironchef]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

Perrin updated this thread...



It's safe to assume that the TBA price with tune and fuel upgrades will be over $5000. What does everything think about that?

That said, it'll be very interesting to see the $/whp gain with this kit...

It's about $200 cheaper compared to their S2000 Tuner kit. The complete kit for the S2000 costs $5950.

[RedRocket]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

Perrin updated this thread...



It's safe to assume that the TBA price with tune and fuel upgrades will be over $5000. What does everything think about that?

That said, it'll be very interesting to see the $/whp gain with this kit...

Like 6k I would think. That makes its value to me very small. I will not buy this kit for more the AVO kit. It should be competitive, or it should be left on shelves. We dictate the price. If we refused gouged prices they'll adjust.

[MANDALAY]

The Vortech looks nice but the power is really so so and ild be worried abouut the connection of the air box with engine movement.
I once thought hey just want about 50 Hp extra but that was short lived.
The std engine output is approx the same as my 2 liter Toyota N/A Beams engine 200 flywheel power. Adding a small Rotrex gave me this 350 Rear wheel HP on a 4wd dyno. My up grade to a bigger Rotrex will give me even more.

Final Dyno 246.1 KW's at the wheels. That just about double the oem figure

[MANDALAY]

After reviewing everything i have done the biggest mistake was actually to use a small SC.

The advantage of a SC is its pointless adding a small one then wanting an upgrade.
It just makes sense to add the biggest one, us the smallest pulley to get max PSI at red line and then dial in a Waste Gate and relieve the pressure where you want it based on engine mods.

This will save you the re-buying cost of a SC and allow future upgrades.

Doing all this work for a gain of 30-50 Hp just ain't worth it at all.

The price on a big model SC to a smaller one is negligible

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

After reviewing everything i have done the biggest mistake was actually to use a small SC.

The advantage of a SC is its pointless adding a small one then wanting an upgrade.
It just makes sense to add the biggest one, us the smallest pulley to get max PSI at red line and then dial in a Waste Gate and relieve the pressure where you want it based on engine mods.

This will save you the re-buying cost of a SC and allow future upgrades.

Doing all this work for a gain of 30-50 Hp just ain't worth it at all.

The price on a big model SC to a smaller one is negligible

The vortech kit on an FR-S made a 80 WHP increase at 5 psi....

[uspspro]

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

After reviewing everything i have done the biggest mistake was actually to use a small SC.

The advantage of a SC is its pointless adding a small one then wanting an upgrade.
It just makes sense to add the biggest one, us the smallest pulley to get max PSI at red line and then dial in a Waste Gate and relieve the pressure where you want it based on engine mods.

This will save you the re-buying cost of a SC and allow future upgrades.

Doing all this work for a gain of 30-50 Hp just ain't worth it at all.

The price on a big model SC to a smaller one is negligible

I agree with much of what you say Mandalay, but it is actually an 80 hp increase. 170 whp -> 250 whp

On pump gas, I really do not think that it is safe to go much further for a peak number. However using the small pulley and wastegate to make more midrange/low end is good idea. The Vortech SC is actually pretty big, based off of the gains at low boost, and the slow impeller speeds as factory.

Also, some just don't need the big power. I'm pretty happy with the stock car, even coming from something with crazy power/weight before. Just needs a bit more power. So an extra 80-90 hp will be great for a guy like me. I would definitely experiment with the pulley/wastegate though. It would be awesome to turn the gate up higher (or off) and run "high boost" on E85, with the press of a button. Could be used on track days, etc..