Call me a NOOB, Differences between Supercharger & Turbo?

[VADER]

Like I said, this is my first new car and it's the car that has gotten me into cars in the first place. Everything is new to me. Can someone please explain in English for a simple minded noob like me to understand?

Differences between Superchargers and Turbos?

Pros and Cons to each?

Which is a better bang for the buck?

[Pete]

I am a noob myself, but I am leaning towards supercharging right now because it is easier to drive and gets boost as soon as you press the pedal. Supercharging will not get you big horsepower numbers though as most of the improvements come in the low and mid RPM range.

Turbos will get you a lot more horsepower at higher RPMs but will generally be more difficult and unpredictable to drive due to the boost kicking in once the exhaust gasses spool up the turbo.

That is my understanding at least, but I am far from being an authority on the subject. If you dig around a bit there is plenty of talk on this topic.

http://www.superchargersonline.com/i...age=page&id=35

[2forme]

Turbos aren't necessarily unpredictable and very easy to drive if you size the turbo correctly to the application.

[FreshFRS]

Originally Posted by 2forme

Turbos aren't necessarily unpredictable and very easy to drive if you size the turbo correctly to the application.

this. just look through the threads and you'll find the info you need.

[VADER]

Originally Posted by Pete

I am a noob myself, but I am leaning towards supercharging right now because it is easier to drive and gets boost as soon as you press the pedal. Supercharging will not get you big horsepower numbers though as most of the improvements come in the low and mid RPM range.

Turbos will get you a lot more horsepower at higher RPMs but will generally be more difficult and unpredictable to drive due to the boost kicking in once the exhaust gasses spool up the turbo.

That is my understanding at least, but I am far from being an authority on the subject. If you dig around a bit there is plenty of talk on this topic.

http://www.superchargersonline.com/i...age=page&id=35

What is better for an automatic..?

[FreshFRS]

Originally Posted by FR-S Dan

Like I said, this is my first new car and it's the car that has gotten me into cars in the first place. Everything is new to me. Can someone please explain in English for a simple minded noob like me to understand?

Differences between Superchargers and Turbos?

Pros and Cons to each?

Which is a better bang for the buck?

Supercharger:
Pro's:
great transient response
huge midrange power gains (centrifugal is more like a turbo)
Extremely linear power delivery
simple to setup and run.
Cons:
generally lower thermal efficiency (eaton TVS makes this negligible)
consuming power vs using exhaust energy
relatively heavy but in a smaller space

Turbo:
Pros:
low end torque (if sized properly)
high rpm power
little energy lost turning the turbo
Cons:
lack of transient response(lag)
mid range power is relatively less compared to SC
more complicated setup.

to sum up:
SC good for up to 350whp whilst being efficient (rough calc)
turbo better for higher horsepower and those who gotta have the most power (dyno queens).

best bang for the buck depends on what you want. SC is easier to setup even with an intercooler in the manifold it is 2 water line to a front mounted heat exchanger and a pump. then just tune and drive.

[VADER]

Originally Posted by FreshFRS

Supercharger:
Pro's:
great transient response
huge midrange power gains (centrifugal is more like a turbo)
Extremely linear power delivery
simple to setup and run.
Cons:
generally lower thermal efficiency (eaton TVS makes this negligible)
consuming power vs using exhaust energy
relatively heavy but in a smaller space

Turbo:
Pros:
low end torque (if sized properly)
high rpm power
little energy lost turning the turbo
Cons:
lack of transient response(lag)
mid range power is relatively less compared to SC
more complicated setup.

to sum up:
SC good for up to 350whp whilst being efficient (rough calc)
turbo better for higher horsepower and those who gotta have the most power (dyno queens).

best bang for the buck depends on what you want. SC is easier to setup even with an intercooler in the manifold it is 2 water line to a front mounted heat exchanger and a pump. then just tune and drive.

Hmm, so from what it sounds like the SC might be the way to go for someone like me. Simple, easy to setup, and probably won't cost as much..

[FreshFRS]

Originally Posted by FR-S Dan

Hmm, so from what it sounds like the SC might be the way to go for someone like me. Simple, easy to setup, and probably won't cost as much..

seems to be that way. but due to how the aftermarket is raping us its hard to say whats going to be cheaper.

[Tylub]

FI is always a hard decision to choose, take your time and research a bit haha

[MmmHamSandwich]

Ok, I'll bite. You're a n00b.

[Freeman]

Originally Posted by FR-S Dan

Hmm, so from what it sounds like the SC might be the way to go for someone like me. Simple, easy to setup, and probably won't cost as much..

This will be my first car that I plan on modifying, and I'm leaning towards the supercharger. My main reasons are, I'm not looking for over 300WHP, I'll be doing the install myself so ease of set up is a big plus, and a supercharger offers that.

There are people that swear by turbos and that's fine. I'm sure either option you choose will put a smile on your face when you put the pedal down

[J2 Motorsports]

In a supercharger, there is a belt that connects directly to the engine. It gets its power the same way that the water pump or alternator does. A turbocharger, on the other hand, gets its power from the exhaust stream.

If you were to balance both forced induction system, it goes into efficiency and cost. While on a turbo setup you can spike your boost on a controller, it will give you more PSI. however power does become addictive and if you go too much you can detonate. On a Supercharger the PSI comes from the diameter of the pulley.

[VADER]

Originally Posted by J2 Motorsports

In a supercharger, there is a belt that connects directly to the engine. It gets its power the same way that the water pump or alternator does. A turbocharger, on the other hand, gets its power from the exhaust stream.

If you were to balance both forced induction system, it goes into efficiency and cost. While on a turbo setup you can spike your boost on a controller, it will give you more PSI. however power does become addictive and if you go too much you can detonate. On a Supercharger the PSI comes from the diameter of the pulley.

I just want a little more HP then I already have. This will not be a racing machine haha. It's an automatic and I just want to see what would be better to give it that extra UMPH!

[J2 Motorsports]

Originally Posted by FR-S Dan

I just want a little more HP then I already have. This will not be a racing machine haha. It's an automatic and I just want to see what would be better to give it that extra UMPH!

The car is fast already, so if you want to be safe and not sorry I would go SC. However all fan boys of boost love the WSSSSHHHHH sound after the turbo spool.

Speed and power is addicting.