Production Toyota FT-86 Details and Design Previewed by Toyota Sports Vehicle Boss

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by MrVito

Overdrive is not a unit that is bolted onto a car, it is a sub 1:1 ratio gear in your transmission, if I am not mistaken all production passenger vehicles now have an overdrive, some have more than one, which bring me to my next point...


In a 2004 STi 5th is the 1:1 gear, so if you really wanted good hwy cruising mpgs and a decent transmission, design it with ratios similar to 5 speeds of the 90's.

maybe not as big of a gap between 1st and second as this

1st- 3.321
2nd- 1.902
3rd- 1.308
4th- 1.000
5th- 0.759

but something similar with a 4:08-4:10 rear end, leaves you with a 1-4 gear set that is both useful, and enjoyable to row through, then make 6th a second overdrive gear, at say .063ish. I say this because if my math is correct, with a 4.08 rear, you'd be around 4k rpms in 5th gear at 80mph. Then again, I'm sure my though process if horribly flawed here, and fully expect someone to tell my why I'm a moron any second now.

What he is talking about is a separate mechanical unit. They were basically an additional 2-speed box that gave 2 different final drives, I think. I would have to look into it, but I think old cars like the Triumph TR6 had something like this. A normal 4 speed transmission with a push-button electrically activated higher final drive. So it was a 'performance' 4 speed, with a push button cruising ratio.

[serialk11r]

I thought overdrive was a second gearbox with 2 speeds, not a final drive change. aka more frictional loss. I think it'd be easier to just add another gear wouldn't it?

[sfwg]

Originally Posted by Dimman

So it was a 'performance' 4 speed, with a push button cruising ratio.

id b down for that but a performance 5 spd with a push button cuising ratio

[[es vi: eks]]

Originally Posted by Dimman

What he is talking about is a separate mechanical unit. They were basically an additional 2-speed box that gave 2 different final drives, I think. I would have to look into it, but I think old cars like the Triumph TR6 had something like this. A normal 4 speed transmission with a push-button electrically activated higher final drive. So it was a 'performance' 4 speed, with a push button cruising ratio.

Yes thats what I was thinking about.
Like in old Rovers and Triumph 2500 S.
A Borgwarner unit or etc.

[Spencer Strayer]

Originally Posted by blur

Go buy a tC

already did... and it could be considered one of the nicest ones in the scion community... so suck me

[82mm 4g63]

Originally Posted by Spencer Strayer

already did... and it could be considered one of the nicest ones in the scion community... so suck me

I assume you're referring to the TC in your avatar picture?

[KevinDuMa]

Not much new information here but I thought it was interesting that they posted specs. While I was at the store I took a look in Car & Driver, Road & Track, and Motortrend and all of them had the Fr-S in the 2012 car section all of them with relatively the same info except Car & Driver said this car would be around 28 grand which is total bs in my opinion. Just excited this car is somewhat making progress and actually put on lists of cars to buy for 2012. Anyway I took a picture of the Motortrend excerpt, enjoy.



I'm also kind of disappointed with what they put as the tq but I guess we'll have to wait for real specs from Toyota.

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by KevinDuMa

Not much new information here but I thought it was interesting that they posted specs. While I was at the store I took a look in Car & Driver, Road & Track, and Motortrend and all of them had the Fr-S in the 2012 car section all of them with relatively the same info except Car & Driver said this car would be around 28 grand which is total bs in my opinion. Just excited this car is somewhat making progress and actually put on lists of cars to buy for 2012. Anyway I took a picture of the Motortrend excerpt, enjoy.



I'm also kind of disappointed with what they put as the tq but I guess we'll have to wait for real specs from Toyota.

numbers by the looks of it. They even said it has a hatch too :\.

[nate89]

Originally Posted by KevinDuMa

Not much new information here but I thought it was interesting that they posted specs. While I was at the store I took a look in Car & Driver, Road & Track, and Motortrend and all of them had the Fr-S in the 2012 car section all of them with relatively the same info except Car & Driver said this car would be around 28 grand which is total bs in my opinion. Just excited this car is somewhat making progress and actually put on lists of cars to buy for 2012. Anyway I took a picture of the Motortrend excerpt, enjoy.



I'm also kind of disappointed with what they put as the tq but I guess we'll have to wait for real specs from Toyota.

For the sake of simple calculations, if we assume that those numbers are produced at the same RPM (in the real word they are not), then those numbers would occur at 7097RPM (~7100RPM), putting the redline at around 7400RPM and max RPM of around 80-8500RPM.

Not too bad....

(however I'd rather have the Saab's turbo I-4 numbers -> 220hp/258lb-ft)

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by KevinDuMa

Not much new information here but I thought it was interesting that they posted specs. While I was at the store I took a look in Car & Driver, Road & Track, and Motortrend and all of them had the Fr-S in the 2012 car section all of them with relatively the same info except Car & Driver said this car would be around 28 grand which is total bs in my opinion. Just excited this car is somewhat making progress and actually put on lists of cars to buy for 2012. Anyway I took a picture of the Motortrend excerpt, enjoy.



I'm also kind of disappointed with what they put as the tq but I guess we'll have to wait for real specs from Toyota.

Don't get your hopes up.

[LivingLegend]

Not too bad....

(however I'd rather have the Saab's turbo I-4 numbers -> 220hp/258lb-ft)

Yeah but for starting at 38k I rather get an Evo or STI...

[Sea1monkey2]

anybody else notice that the body style is a hatch?

[madfast]

Originally Posted by Sea1monkey2

anybody else notice that the body style is a hatch?

yep. i've looked at all the spy pics over and over, and have yet to find one shred of evidence that this thing is going to be a hatch. imo, its just more magazine speculation... like those numbers they pulled out their ass....

[Mr.Jay]

pulled it out of their ass I believe is clearly the case