Production Toyota FT-86 Details and Design Previewed by Toyota Sports Vehicle Boss

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Aki

Point is we know nothing about the engine and already people are talking about swapping it out.

We don't know anything about the price of the car and yet we are talking about it. We don't know anything about the colors being offered and yet we are talking about it. We have very few details about the engine and yet we are talking about it. We don't know exactly what the production version will look like outside or inside (just a few spy shots) and yet we are talking about it. We don't know anything about how it will handle, and yet we are talking about it. We talk about this car because we are passionate about it and like it.

[bofa]

Well, what we think we know based on various tidbits is N/A 2.0 boxer... people plotting swaps are basing it on that information but I'm not sure anyone has an EJ25 mounted on a stand yet for rebuild.

And while it's generally against my religion to agree with PAIT, I think he was pointing out that you run the risk of some major modifications voiding your warranty anyway, so why not go full out and swap as you please.

Again, its just banter. If you prefer not to hear it, check back in around December once we have some numbers.

[Aki]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

We don't know anything about the colors being offered and yet we are talking about it.

Yeah, but people don't talk about how the FRS is going to have crappy paint out of the factory, and that we need to strip and repaint it.

[1660]

Originally Posted by Praetendere

I wonder if swapping in a 1LR-GUE would be feasible.

Yes, very practical. Start a new thread, since it is off topic.

[SVTSHC]

I'm a Warranty Claims Coding Specialist for BMW. I know AAALLLLL about warranty, I've been doing it for a while now.

The reason I got excited about the EJ257 swap is because of the sheer fact that it's possible and supposedly not going to require much fab. Sure the EJ that's in it is mounted crazy low in the car so that might bring up some issues with the plumbing. Sure the motor that's in it might very well respond incredibly to modification so a swap wouldn't really be necessary.

I have the unwanted pleasure of telling people "Sorry, that's not covered." and hearing them complain. If I were to do an engine swap or any type of heavy modification it would be AFTER warranty expires. That would at least give me some time to feel out the car and the heart that's in it. Also if about a year or so in I don't like the heart it came with and feel like doing a transplant I'll buy the EJ257, leave it on a stand and start slow moding it till my warranty runs up, THEN put it in. There's no rush, if I get this car I plan on having it for a while; I've been waiting for it for a while.

[SVTSHC]

Originally Posted by Aki

Yeah, but people don't talk about how the FRS is going to have crappy paint out of the factory, and that we need to strip and repaint it.

Dude, relax. No one is saying the motor that'll come with it is going to be trash. We're excited about the possibility of putting in a different one without much fab. Hell, someone may do a swap just because they prefer the sound of another motor. This is a straight enthusiasts car, they made that clear when they were talking about sacrificing many of the creature comforts that exist in modern cars to make weight. Based off that alone, you're going to have different kinds of people buying the car; rich people, working class people, people that don't have the cash to really throw at moding, hell even teenagers.

[PAImportTuner]

Originally Posted by Aki

And if your swapped engine with i/h/e flash gets blown, you get no warranty either. Don't see how a swapped engine is any more appealing from a warranty standpoint. Plus, you'd really have to botch a flash to blow your motor with simple bolt-ons.

A stock 257 swap in this car would be enough for most. running off factory tune and all. So no worries, unless the motor is messed up already. When warranty is blown, the sky is the limit or whatever your budget is.

[PAImportTuner]

Originally Posted by SVTSHC

Dude, relax. No one is saying the motor that'll come with it is going to be trash. We're excited about the possibility of putting in a different one without much fab. Hell, someone may do a swap just because they prefer the sound of another motor. This is a straight enthusiasts car, they made that clear when they were talking about sacrificing many of the creature comforts that exist in modern cars to make weight. Based off that alone, you're going to have different kinds of people buying the car; rich people, working class people, people that don't have the cash to really throw at moding, hell even teenagers.

Exactly, no1 is saying what Fuji, TMC and Yamaha made is junk. Some are just saying it may not be enough power without FI even if the car is light and the motor is 200hp.

Just like Miata with rotarys, v8s or Rx7s with LSX or 20B swaps. Those cars are fun in stock form but some want more power/tq, different powerband characteristics and even sound.

[RRnold]

Moto mentioned no sunroof! I remember we had a debate about this! I for one was for a moonroof but if it doesn't have one, it's all good.

"NO SUNROOF! for people who don't want it!!!
Noted... "

[bofa]

Originally Posted by RRnold

Moto mentioned no sunroof! I remember we had a debate about this! I for one was for a moonroof but if it doesn't have one, it's all good.

"NO SUNROOF! for people who don't want it!!!
Noted... "

Feels like a tease but it almost sounds like it might be an option...

[Sea1monkey2]

Originally Posted by RRnold

Moto mentioned no sunroof! I remember we had a debate about this! I for one was for a moonroof but if it doesn't have one, it's all good.

"NO SUNROOF! for people who don't want it!!!
Noted... "

I wouldnt mind a moonroof. I just dont want something that can open, leak, and be obnoxiously loud

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by bofa

Feels like a tease but it almost sounds like it might be an option...

Originally Posted by Sea1monkey2

I wouldnt mind a moonroof. I just dont want something that can open, leak, and be obnoxiously loud

That would be better as an option. If there is a moonroof, I hope it isn't as big as the tC and not dual.

[SVTSHC]

I'll do without the sunroof/moonroof. I'm not a fan of having something directly overhead with a seal that will eventually go bad and leak all up in my what will likely be cloth interior.

[Levi]

Does my my ~ 300 HP NA FT-86 street legal track wepon get realistic? Maybe not, but Ireally like what I am hearing. I think I am back. Hope my FT-86 will give similar feeling as this: