Would you guys prefer FB20 or FB25 for NA FT?

[Random_Art]

yeah... though I'm not sure about what that catalytic converter placement says about the performance of the exhaust. I assume that would be just for the base Impreza and any performance variants will have it moved farther down stream to compensate for better headers.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Random_Art

Ah.... looking at the boxer engine makes me happy

[tranzformer]

Now that it is under-square any thoughts/predictions? Did that catch anyone by surprise.

[Exage]

The old EJ20 is over-square... And we still don't know bore and stroke so it could be a square or under-square engine for all we know. My bets still lie on over-square.

And no. I remember my first post I said "neither". Turns out I was partially right; neither happened, and I'm quite stoked about that. I was getting worried for a while...

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Exage

The old EJ20 is over-square... And we still don't know bore and stroke so it could be a square or under-square engine for all we know. My bets still lie on over-square.

And no. I remember my first post I said "neither". Turns out I was partially right; neither happened, and I'm quite stoked about that. I was getting worried for a while...

So I guess we don't really know anything more about the possible design of the engine.

[Exage]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

So I guess we don't really know anything more about the possible design of the engine.

Bingo. But like I said, my money is on over-squared.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

So I guess we don't really know anything more about the possible design of the engine.

We know that if how they described the motor is true, as being completely reworked by Toyota and Yamaha and based on the performance-proven EJ instead of the economy-minded FB, it's going to make me very happy.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Dimman

We know that if how they described the motor is true, as being completely reworked by Toyota and Yamaha and based on the performance-proven EJ instead of the economy-minded FB, it's going to make me very happy.

Yup.

It was great to hear that Yamaha is "officially" part of the design process. We kept hearing rumors, but it is great to hear that it is somewhat official.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Yup.

It was great to hear that Yamaha is "officially" part of the design process. We kept hearing rumors, but it is great to hear that it is somewhat official.

Yes! So much yes!

The differences between the 'F' basic Toyota engine and 'G' Toyota + Yamaha engines: Last gen 2.0L 3SFE in the RAV4 was about 140 hp. Last gen 2.0L 3SGE in the Altezza was a touch over 200 hp.

A decade ago!

[tranzformer]

I'm kinda confused by the comment about the USA getting the better exhaust system. Since when did we get better things than the rest of the world?

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

So I guess we don't really know anything more about the possible design of the engine.

We still don't know anything about the engine specs besides displacement. The mounts being the same isn't new or special, as far as I know all Subaru cars have the same engine mounts. The transmissions can even swap from different EJs from foreign to domestic cars. The biggest change was a switch to hydraulic clutches on everything back in the 90's.

So we're still waiting for everything...:\

[bofa]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

I'm kinda confused by the comment about the USA getting the better exhaust system. Since when did we get better things than the rest of the world?

Yeah I was puzzled here too... but I'm willing to bet it will be a TRD upgrade, in which case I imagine there will be better, lighter aftermarket options.

[Fly Guy]

Moto-P posted:

"I was told the USA may get one with nicer exhaust system, since we tend to like raspier noises from cars that move quick. But again, that's if up to the decision makers, and if we as enthusiasts voice enough calls. I for one, I am screaming... 'YES YES and YES'
"

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by Fly Guy

Moto-P posted:

"I was told the USA may get one with nicer exhaust system, since we tend to like raspier noises from cars that move quick. But again, that's if up to the decision makers, and if we as enthusiasts voice enough calls. I for one, I am screaming... 'YES YES and YES'
"

Moto gives the impression as though raspier the better. We are more than likely going to see dual cats b/c of emissions but maybe he's talking about a more "aftermarket looking" oem exhaust; less packing, a smaller resonator and rolled exhaust tips perhaps. Maybe he meant a deeper sound kind of like how the Z or G37's sound.