Who will be the first to step up their game and make cams/smim - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

dsmx17 · 10-18-2012, 03:07 PM

From looking at the higher power turbo cars on the site, its pretty obvious from the power curve, they have about reached the flow potential of the stock cams, and possibly intake manifold.

So who will be on the bandwagon to make cams.....and who would you like to see produce them?

My personal choice? Kelford of course!

xjohnx · 10-18-2012, 03:09 PM

Would love to see something from Toda Racing.

dsmx17 · 10-18-2012, 03:15 PM

Toda is a good one to look out for, and of course HKS will release something im sure (probably the first to release I would assume)

xjohnx · 10-18-2012, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmx17

Toda is a good one to look out for, and of course HKS will release something im sure (probably the first to release I would assume)

I still miss the sound of Toda Spec B's in my ITR.

dsmx17 · 10-18-2012, 03:59 PM

I would think something along the lines of a crower sti profile would sound great and help with the top end losses quite a bit, maybe something like:

Duration (Seat): Int: 264° / Exh: 264°
Duration @ .50": Int: 220° / Exh: 220°
Lift: Int: .400" / Exh: .400"

with springs of course

jkonquer · 10-18-2012, 10:48 PM

Hks has one already just havent released yet

*KID* · 10-18-2012, 11:20 PM

wouldnt mind getting a set, while hearing those lobes

Lonewolf · 10-19-2012, 01:27 AM

Search, this has been discussed.

Tomei is working on cams at the moment.

Toda was not when I talked to them two and a half months ago.

OmarGC · 10-19-2012, 01:31 AM

Cams for a flat 4 = $$$$$

I've ran Kelford 272's in my last scoob that actually had a Suby engine.

Can't wait for Tomei to release their lineup

usptwins · 10-19-2012, 06:40 AM

Link and specs on the HKS proto's??

serialk11r · 10-19-2012, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmarGC

Cams for a flat 4 = $$$$$

I'm not 100% sure on this but I feel like intake cams matter much more than exhaust cams, if you're not going for a bonkers overlap race engine build where scavenging effect is very big. The intake cam can change volumetric efficiency all on its own while the exhaust cam can affect scavenging and reduces pumping at high rpm slightly (at the cost of slightly less power from the power stroke).

Can any experts chime in on this? Aftermarket cams seem to always come in pairs for DOHC motors...just switching the intake cams for a stage 1 build seems like it would be easier.

NYC BRZ · 10-19-2012, 07:27 AM

SEMA is a couple weeks away so expect new parts in droves. Can't make it this year or else I'd be scouting for everyone.

OrbitalEllipses · 10-19-2012, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmx17

I would think something along the lines of a crower sti profile would sound great and help with the top end losses quite a bit, maybe something like:

Duration (Seat): Int: 264° / Exh: 264°
Duration @ .50": Int: 220° / Exh: 220°
Lift: Int: .400" / Exh: .400"

with springs of course

264* sounds great, and probably won't suffer much, if any, losses down low. I expect cams for this engine will be few and far between, whilst carrying a hefty price tag.

dsmx17 · 10-19-2012, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Search, this has been discussed.

Tomei is working on cams at the moment.

Toda was not when I talked to them two and a half months ago.

Saw an old thread lost amongst a million exhaust threads, so, started a new one?

10-18-2012, 03:07 PM	#1
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10-19-2012, 06:40 AM	#10
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10-18-2012, 03:59 PM	#5
dsmx17 4g63>rotards Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 98'GSX 11'Tundra 10'Wrangler Location: VA Posts: 162 Thanks: 60 Thanked 82 Times in 43 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would think something along the lines of a crower sti profile would sound great and help with the top end losses quite a bit, maybe something like: Duration (Seat): Int: 264° / Exh: 264° Duration @ .50": Int: 220° / Exh: 220° Lift: Int: .400" / Exh: .400" with springs of course

10-19-2012, 01:27 AM	#8
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10-19-2012, 07:27 AM	#12
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