Engine idle chirping (cricket) noise poll. - Page 79 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

chrisbfrs · 10-17-2012, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

Make sure you do some spirited driving to get the engine really hot, also running E10 gasoline, and then while idling listen for the chirp again. It will more than likely be back as other FRS owners in the TSB thread on this forum have had their fuel pumps replaced only to have the chirp return under those specific conditions.

EDIT: Okay so the Subaru TSB is finally out, and it DOES specifically state the cause of the chirp and the required new pump and parts, but the COUNTERMEASURE is stated to be a specific corrective method of REASSEMBLY of the whole system to control orientation of the plunger stopper in the HPFP. The Scion TSB did not elaborate on this when I read it!

It makes sense now why the part #'s are kept the same! The incorrect orientation of the hpfp plunger stopper is the root cause of the chirp, can we all agree on this as factual info now?

Those FRS owners who've had the chirps come back likely didn't have the plunger stopper in the HPFP oriented correctly during reassembly.
The Scion TSB should be updated with the crucial info from the Subaru TSB to avoid any misunderstandings about the root cause and the countermeasure!

I always drive spiritedly....chirp always there....But...I filled up with chevron twice and the chirp went away. It got quieter after first fill up and went away after second chevron fill up. I then filled up with the usual QuickTrip I use and the chirp immediately came back! QuickTrip says others fuels are fruit punch! Then QuickTrip is tap water!
Anyway I had the fuel pump RnR the other day. Chirp is not back, but I have Chevron in the tank right now, gonna use QT just to test it out. However, the new fuel pump is making a noisy clanking/ticking sound

Is this normal? My old pump only had the chirp not the clap I mean clank! This is driving me nuts, Im very ocd and makes me not like the car.
Im also having horrible rattling from door panels when stereo is on. I pin pointed it to the window control switches, brought it to the dealer and they said they didnt notice anything!

Im going back and showing them the rattles and make them fix it. I cant even listen to my stereo in a brand new car with out crappy rattle sounds.
Very unhappy right now with my FR-S

2point0 · 10-17-2012, 07:18 PM

Yes, the direct injection makes a tak-tak-tak sound, nothing like the high pitched chirping. Usually it's not that lound unless you have the hood up and are standing in front of the car. I never hear it inside the car, but maybe I'm just used to Subarus making noises.

jduffy · 10-17-2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marshman

I have nothing but good things to say about Byers Toyota/Scion in Delaware Ohio. They actually called me and asked about the CEL/ idle issue. When I told them I did not have that issue they told me to made sure if it happens to bring the car in right away. A couple days later my FRS started doing the cricket chirp. I called the service manager and told him about it. Without even looking at the car he ordered the parts and they called me today to tell me the parts are in and I can come in anytime for the work. Only took them about a week to get the parts.

Talk about a proactive dealer, that's outstanding. I bought my BRZ out of state so I'm not sure what kind of service I'll get from a dealer who did not sell me the car but we'll see when the time comes. So far no chirps and a bit of a seeking idle this AM so still early at 2,000 miles.

zoomzoomers · 10-17-2012, 08:20 PM

I don't know if it's the cooler weather or the switch to the winter reserve gas (decreed by the Gov. of California), but I haven't heard the nasty chirps in about a week. I keep trying to listen for it every time I get a chance, but none. Woohoo!!!

Hanakuso · 10-17-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

I don't know if it's the cooler weather or the switch to the winter reserve gas (decreed by the Gov. of California), but I haven't heard the nasty chirps in about a week. I keep trying to listen for it every time I get a chance, but none. Woohoo!!!

I noticed this as well. This Saturday I was going to take my car in for the chirping but I couldn't get it to make the noise within the 15-20 mins of driving. Although last night I did notice the chirping, temps were higher last night then on Saturday

rice_classic · 10-17-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

EDIT: Okay so the Subaru TSB is finally out, and it DOES specifically state the cause of the chirp and the required new pump and parts, but the COUNTERMEASURE is stated to be a specific corrective method of REASSEMBLY of the whole system to control orientation of the plunger stopper in the HPFP. The Scion TSB did not elaborate on this when I read it!

I thought the correct orientation of plunger stopper in the HPFP is something that took place in the manufacturing of the HPFP, not something on in the install. If it was "install related" then they wouldn't need to replace the darn thing, they could just open it up and reposition the plunger stopper.

Apollo_1092 · 10-17-2012, 08:55 PM

My car is now in the shop for the chirping. It has 4650 miles on it and I didn't have any problems with chirping until I drove my car down to Texas (about 800 miles). Dropped it off because of the idle issue and the fact that the engine would just randomly die. Dealership is working with Toyota and they want to fix the chirping first and see if that fixes the problems. I'm being told that the pump is on back order so I have no idea when it'll be in. At least some people have an eta so that's giving me some comfort.

ATL BRZ · 10-18-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic

I thought the correct orientation of plunger stopper in the HPFP is something that took place in the manufacturing of the HPFP, not something on in the install. If it was "install related" then they wouldn't need to replace the darn thing, they could just open it up and reposition the plunger stopper.

You're right, I originally misunderstood!

OrbitalEllipses · 10-18-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

You're right, I originally misunderstood!

Go back and edit your posts so this point isn't stressed.

zoomzoomers · 10-21-2012, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanakuso

I noticed this as well. This Saturday I was going to take my car in for the chirping but I couldn't get it to make the noise within the 15-20 mins of driving. Although last night I did notice the chirping, temps were higher last night then on Saturday

From what I know, there is less oxygen in the winter reserves. Do you think this might having something to do with the chirps disappearing? I wonder...

tedddee · 10-22-2012, 02:00 AM

So on the Subaru bulletin, it says VIN D*603383.

Does that mean cars with VIN's lower than that are affected?

JF1ZCAB15D1601615 being mine, would be in the range?

dsgerbc · 10-22-2012, 11:11 AM

^yes
There's no reason to post your whole VIN.

cnk · 10-22-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tedddee

So on the Subaru bulletin, it says VIN D*603383.

Does that mean cars with VIN's lower than that are affected?

JF1ZCAB15D1601615 being mine, would be in the range?

It means that your car falls in the range where it could be affected. It doesn't mean that it necessarily has the problem.

TRBO2NR · 10-29-2012, 04:07 PM

Only about 250 miles on mine that was built on 9/19 and it already has crickets! (after the TSB vin number they have in the TSB)

View Poll Results: Do you have chirping (cricket) noise during idle once the car is warmed up?
Yes (Please only vote after you have 300 miles or more on the odometer)	3,101	85.22%
No (Please only vote after you have 300 miles or more on the odometer)	538	14.78%
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10-17-2012, 08:20 PM	#1096
zoomzoomers Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2013 Subaru SWP BRZ Limited 6AT Location: Darkside Posts: 1,862 Thanks: 526 Thanked 305 Times in 207 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't know if it's the cooler weather or the switch to the winter reserve gas (decreed by the Gov. of California), but I haven't heard the nasty chirps in about a week. I keep trying to listen for it every time I get a chance, but none. Woohoo!!! __________________ Man Law#17:A man in the company of a hot, seductively dressed, woman MUST remain sober enough to fight! MODS: AVO tubes + filter, Cusco (F) strut brace w/ MC brace, Perrin CBE, Subaru OEM trunk tray, Grimmspeed front license re-locator & hood struts and Beatsonic rear cam.

10-17-2012, 08:55 PM	#1099
Apollo_1092 Flyboy Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Series 10 FR-S MT (Ordered) Location: TX Posts: 88 Thanks: 48 Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My car is now in the shop for the chirping. It has 4650 miles on it and I didn't have any problems with chirping until I drove my car down to Texas (about 800 miles). Dropped it off because of the idle issue and the fact that the engine would just randomly die. Dealership is working with Toyota and they want to fix the chirping first and see if that fixes the problems. I'm being told that the pump is on back order so I have no idea when it'll be in. At least some people have an eta so that's giving me some comfort. __________________ Current: Dynotronics Tune, Injen SRI, RevWorks UEL Header (ordered), GReddy Evo3 Future: Over pipe, front pipe, trunk spoiler, mud flaps Whiteout FR-S: Totaled due to hail damage Nobis Non Licet Mediocribus

10-29-2012, 04:07 PM	#1106
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