Motor Trend, August issue.

[82mm 4g63]

aircrafts, cars, machinery, semiconductors, food stuffs

[1660]

Corn, wood, rice, scrap metal, copper, blue fin tuna, yellow fin tuna, mackerel, salmon, salmon roe, king crab, gold, silver, aluminum.

[Giccin]

Originally Posted by enc0re

Movies, TV shows, books, video games, software, pharmaceuticals, design, financial services, guns.

Ok I overlooked the Movies and T.V shows. Video games yes but Chinese "farmers" are ruining everything. Guns.. nice. Slipped my mind about that one. :P

Originally Posted by 82mm 4g63

aircrafts, cars, machinery, semiconductors, food stuffs

Hmm good one! Cars... I'm not so sure about. :x Although I have seen an increase of american muscle cars around.

Originally Posted by 1660

Corn, wood, rice, scrap metal, copper, blue fin tuna, yellow fin tuna, mackerel, salmon, salmon roe, king crab, gold, silver, aluminum.

^ Haha. Crab I can definitely understand.. BUT TUNA!?


Its awesome you guys thought of a bunch of different things... but a lot of the other things you guys mentioned people get cheaper from other countries.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by bofa

Who ever did that photochop need to get fired and hire WoW. Seriously, Wow can do 100x better that chop!

[ToyotaObsession]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

This is just a little graph to show you how crappy the USD has been doing. In the last 4 years the USD has dropped 30% compared to the JPY. In the past 12 months you are looking at the USD dropping 10% compared to the JPY. Our USD doesn't buy as much as it use to, so Scion could really specs this differently than the Toyota version the rest of the world sees due to costs.

You realize that as the Value of the Yen goes up against the dollar that makes our exports cheaper to buy. Which means our exports go up, imports go down, economy does good. It makes building Cars here cheaper than in Japan.

That's why Global companies love it when the Euro goes up against the dollar. Makes it easier to sell our products.

The USD is still the standard world currency, it still is the prefered currency for transactions, it's also the worlds reserve. Meaning if the USD truly tanks as a whole, the whole world goes with it.

As for Scion, and the release series. How are they bullshit exactly? It's just limited edition stuff that comes with some one off extras for more money. They sell the regular versions right along side them. If you were forced into buying one, that would be bullshit. But more options is usually a good thing.

Finally, less radical refers to the body and the wheels. There won't be LED lights everywhere and the styling will be less radical for the production version. Just like it is with all Concept vs. Production cars.

Everyone is going to get the same underpinnings, and more than likely the Subaru and Toyota/Scion versions will be within a few K of each other. This is an entry sports car. Subaru isn't going to be selling many if the make it too expensive. Especially when there really isn't anything extra to be had for that higher price except perhaps a more luxurious interior.

Carry on the Scion bashing. :happy0180:

[WingsofWar]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Who ever did that photochop need to get fired and hire WoW. Seriously, Wow can do 100x better that chop!

awwww your soo sweet,

but ya thats a pretty bad image to be placed in a popular magazine. There are far better artists, and artists im personally friends with that could do a much better job and take less pay too.

I wish someone would give me a job.

[ToyotaObsession]

Originally Posted by WingsofWar

I wish someone would give me a job.

Boeing. They are hiring like crazy right now. If you're lucky you could get stuck with me.

[1660]

Originally Posted by Giccin

^ Haha. Crab I can definitely understand.. BUT TUNA!?

http://www.pic.or.jp/en/market/tuna.htm

http://factsanddetails.com/japan.php...4&subcatid=159

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=TUNAIQTL:IND

Japan has very little natural resources. They have to rely on their people and technology in manufacturing. I believe the Tokyo fish market is the largest in the world.

[Giccin]

Originally Posted by 1660

http://www.pic.or.jp/en/market/tuna.htm

http://factsanddetails.com/japan.php...4&subcatid=159

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=TUNAIQTL:IND

Japan has very little natural resources. They have to rely on their people and technology in manufacturing. I believe the Tokyo fish market is the largest in the world.

I wasn't talking about Japan prior to that post. Lol I was asking..


"What do people want from the U.S" not Japan. ;p

[Random_Art]

Originally Posted by WingsofWar

awwww your soo sweet,

but ya thats a pretty bad image to be placed in a popular magazine. There are far better artists, and artists im personally friends with that could do a much better job and take less pay too.

I wish someone would give me a job.

I feel ya. I'm working freelance right now, and it blows. I just want something stable.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

You realize that as the Value of the Yen goes up against the dollar that makes our exports cheaper to buy. Which means our exports go up, imports go down, economy does good. It makes building Cars here cheaper than in Japan.

Yes as the JYP goes up our exports become cheaper but you need something to sell for that to work. What do we export that Japan in particular wants from us? It was mentioned a few posts back what some of our exports were. Most of that is natural resources; i.e. corn, wheat, grains, wood, minerals...etc. Our manufacturing sector is shit now that we have sent most of that work to China. Some companies are starting to come back to the USA to manufacture, however it is still heavily skewed to the other side.

Just face it, our economy sucks now. We don't really produce anything that other countries want. Well maybe our fighter planes, aerial drones, tanks, attack helicopters and other military weapons. Right now we are a service economy. We don't produce things like we did back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. We are also a "consumption" economy. Other countries are dependent on us to buy their goods rather than them buying our goods.

In reference to your point above, Subaru/Toyota are going to build the FT86 at a Subaru plant in Japan. So your point about it being built in the US being cheaper is a mute point since that is not taking place in this example. This isn't like the Camry, Solara, Avalon and Venza that are built here.

Just to reference this point with actual data here are our 2011 import/export numbers for Japan and China:

Japan




China



As you can see we import 2x more from Japan and 3.5x more from China than we export to them. The USD has lost 20% against the CNY over the last 4 years. Doesn't look like they are taking advantage of the higher JYP and CNY as you hypothesized does it? I can go back and give you data from 2010, 2009, 2008...etc. showing the same stuff; we don't export much to China and Japan but we sure do buy a lot from them.

Want to see something truly depressing? Here is a list of our top 10 countries we have a trade deficit with and trade surplus. Just ignore China and Japan being in our top 10 trade deficit partners and look at the absolute USD $ amount in the column. That should speak for itself.

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/...t/deficit.html

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/...t/surplus.html

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

That's why Global companies love it when the Euro goes up against the dollar. Makes it easier to sell our products.

What exactly are we selling again and to whom?

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

The USD is still the standard world currency, it still is the prefered currency for transactions, it's also the worlds reserve. Meaning if the USD truly tanks as a whole, the whole world goes with it.

Sure the USD might be the current reserve currency but you would have to live under a rock to know that IMF and world bankers are wondering if that needs to be changed. You probably won't read any of these articles but I figured for the record I should put up recent articles that prove my point


1) Central Banks Dump Treasuries As Dollar's Reserve Currency Status Fades


2) The World Needs a Second Reserve Currency by Moorad Choudhry


3) Economists foretell of U.S. decline, China's ascension

4) Enhancing International Monetary Stability—A Role for the SDR?: It is a long read but it is the IMF report basically saying the USD needs to be replaced as the world reserve currency and they think SDRs are a good solution.



ToyotaObsession, if you have any articles that say the opposite, please share them.

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

As for Scion, and the release series. How are they bullshit exactly? It's just limited edition stuff that comes with some one off extras for more money.

Do we really have to get into that? Hmm lets see, how about the fact that they are geared towards the "ricer" crowd. Every RS that I have followed is basically a new loud color that looks ridiculous. Secondly they have an added body kit/side moldings and maybe a few interior features are changed. That is basically it. Besides the few years Scion offered the TRD supercharger show me an RS that offers a better engine in it? RS is just a bunch of rubbish geared towards the visual appearance with nothing of substance behind it. You can dress up a turd as much as you want, but in the end it is still a turd. It doesn't bother me any since I would never buy a tC or xB, but it is disappointing to me when you consider the legacy of Toyota and TRD. Just feels like they don't care any about performance and want to make the little kiddies happy with these "dope new colors."

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

Especially when there really isn't anything extra to be had for that higher price except perhaps a more luxurious interior.

Besides interior you could have better/lighter: wheels, tires, suspension parts, brakes...etc. for a higher price. Obviously you can't do all of those things if the difference is just a few thousand bucks, but you could have a few parts be better in the more expensive car (or not as good in the cheaper car).

[Exage]

http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...way/index.html

Hmmmmmmm. (Thinks deeply)

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Exage

http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut...way/index.html

Hmmmmmmm. (Thinks deeply)

Hmmmmmm for me too. We know that the 2012 WRX/STI is unchanged, so the earliest is 2013 (release fall of 2012) for new model but the article hints at 2014 which would be a long time from now. Might be worth waiting a few months if the FT-86 comes out late spring/early summer and this came out in the fall of 2012. AWD would be nice, but will probably suffer a bit from oversteer unless Subaru has found away to fix that. But a 1.6L with 270hp sounds nice.

[PAImportTuner]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Hmmmmmm for me too. We know that the 2012 WRX/STI is unchanged, so the earliest is 2013 (release fall of 2012) for new model but the article hints at 2014 which would be a long time from now. Might be worth waiting a few months if the FT-86 comes out late spring/early summer and this came out in the fall of 2012. AWD would be nice, but will probably suffer a bit from oversteer unless Subaru has found away to fix that. But a 1.6L with 270hp sounds nice.

Hmmmmmm x3 too. Well good thing that by the time the FT86 is released we should be able to see the car being tested on the ring. Maybe TAS will have a surprise concept of the WRX along with the FT, if not the shows in 2012 should.

I'd love to have a factory warrantied light 250-300hp 1.6L turbo AWD Sportscar that isn't $80+k and custom built/tube chassis. I wouldn't even care it is was only 2 seats, sign me the **** up.