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Old 10-11-2012, 11:37 AM   #57
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If I remember correctly multiple people who are respected on this forum even reported the same thing.
And really now? Like I said this is all over the forums. It suprises me how dumb people can be. Its common/known knowledge that car are pre broken in before they are shipped out
No disrespect intended here, but I think you really need a reality check, and here it is:
Respected on a forum != PhD in Mechanical Engineering, or Metallurgy, or any number of fields that would have better authority to speak to this subject than "random respected guy on internet car forum".

Cite me a real engineer (not that mototune clown) that's willing to back up the "It's pre-broken in" assertion and I'll concede the argument. If not.. I really actually laughed out loud at your comment that "respected guys on the forum agree" statement. Until you prove your assertion that the vehicles are pre-broken in, it is nothing more than that, YOUR (and other car forum folks) assertion.
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:58 AM   #58
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@DrHouse and @showbe I'm not sure if this is pertinent to you guys or not but I don't think all vehicles are revved from the factory. They just select a random few as a sample which should fairly represent the batch from which they were selected. Even fewer would get driven on their test track (forgot if those ended up being delivered to customers). If they ran every test on every car, it would be a bottleneck in the production line so engineers rely on samples/statistics of QA failures. This is all from my memory as a manufacturing engineer co-op at the now shutdown Toyota/GM plant in Fremont, CA with my assignment having been in the car paint section. And you don't need to be an engineer; I only vaguely remember this from the mandatory tour I took of the whole plant on my first day. Anyone who has toured the plant (everyday people outside the company) would know just as well.
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Old 10-11-2012, 12:43 PM   #59
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The broken un at the factory argument will never end, but having spoken to someone who's worked on an assembly line, I was told that every car is "run up" as it leaves the assembly line. I would assume to check if everything is working properly. Take that as you will...
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Old 10-11-2012, 01:10 PM   #60
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Was a robot playing the Indiana Jones theme at the very end?

Happy icecream truck singing robots are very.... Japanese of them. In America we'd have blaring warning beeps I'm sure. Obnoxious beeps or obnoxious music. Take your pick, though over there if you accidentally get your extremities or limbs smashed at least you know the machine was happy as it did it.

"Hello, I'm Hitachi HL-445 Revision 4.3 Unit 5 and I've come all the way from Section 3 of the Drivetrain Finalization Assembly in order to deliver this powertrain to you and inadvertently smash your hand against the frame. Doodle doodle doo, doodle doodle do, doo doo dee dee doo..."
Epically funny stuff!!!!
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Old 10-11-2012, 03:52 PM   #61
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Happy icecream truck singing robots are very.... Japanese of them. In America we'd have blaring warning beeps I'm sure. Obnoxious beeps or obnoxious music. Take your pick, though over there if you accidentally get your extremities or limbs smashed at least you know the machine was happy as it did it.
Those robots are awesome in person. I worked in a div. Pfizer manufacturing plant for a while and there were similar machines that carried stuff throughout the facility. Someone would do their job, scan it into the robot, and off it would go with the most loud obnoxious "BEEP!" ever on a three second delay, so no cool music or anything. And earplugs were mandatory, so they had to be loud enough to be heard clearly with those in. I forget if they were RFID controlled or what, but they had controllers and location sensors all around the building to let them go from destination to destination and they'd just happily BEEP! their way across the entire plant. Also of note, every one of them had several large buttons with the word "STOP" on it, so if you couldn't get out of the way you could mash the button to escape death. They also had built in proximity sensors so if they were getting close to an object in their path they'd drop to quarter speed or so.

Makes me sort of miss working in a manufacturing plant. It was definitely a fun experience.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:58 PM   #62
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My old roommate had a ricecooker that sang twinkle twinkle little star when it was done and some other song when you started it, I forget now. It was always good for a laugh when guests were over.

He (my roommate) had to show me how to work it because all the buttons were labelled in Japanese.

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Old 10-11-2012, 05:53 PM   #63
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My old roommate had a ricecooker that sang twinkle twinkle little star when it was done and some other song when you started it, I forget now. It was always good for a laugh when guests were over.

He (my roommate) had to show me how to work it because all the buttons were labelled in Japanese.

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I wish your roommate's rice cooker would teach those tunes to my microwave
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:32 PM   #64
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That must be an insanely boring job, repeating the same motion over and over again for the rest of your life.
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Where is the BRZ Birth Certificate? (I'm a BRZ Birther)
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:06 PM   #66
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All first model/year cars are like this. You tell me a production car that hasnt had its share of problems in first year cars. Nearly every single one that is affordable for the common person has their problems.

If they didnt break it in before hand then I guess everyones cars coming off the ships at the ports will be fucked but you dont see any cars blowing an engine because of that. .
Really? Thanks for the newsflash. While all first year year have teething issues, the amount and severity of the issues the FRS/BRZ have already experienced is quite disappointing. Consumer reports/ jd power is going to hammer the twins in future reliability rankings as a result.
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:00 PM   #67
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iv gone over 4k rpm many of times car is running fine like any other frs.. like i isaid pre broken in.. just gotta get that clutch broken in. i rest my case
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:53 AM   #68
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And really now? Like I said this is all over the forums. It suprises me how dumb people can be. Its common/known knowledge that car are pre broken in before they are shipped out. Do you think they arent going to do that for quality control purposes?
Quality control's purpose is to uncover defects, not to break in the car. Just because they're starting and revving the car to make sure everything (apparently) works OK, it doesn't mean they have completed a factory break-in, and the user doesn't have to do anything about it.
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I used to intern in a Denso plant in Tennessee during college. They had the same soothing music for everythign including shift change alarms. It's all very pleasant and surreal. Especially in the starter/alternator plant which is full of very serious looking people and crazy metal work in a dark, cave-like atmosphere.
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