A Message to Toyota

[ToyotaObsession]

Originally Posted by Kage

No I understand why TRD will never happen that way.



As is said above scion couldn't sell a car that expensive, the 86 is even a bit high for the price point the brand is suppose to be at. If there is ever a supra again it would be a lexus.

Who sets the price point for the Brand? That's right Toyota. If they wanted to sell the LF-A as a Scion they could.

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

I'm doubtful that it'd be a Lexus, otherwise it'd fall under the F Sport Performance division and not be called a Supra at all. Nissan can carry the GT-R under its own badge rather than an Infiniti here in the States. I assume that Toyota could do the same if they were to resurrect the Supra name.

Except they don't have anything they could rasie it under. Other than oh I know! The brand they are molding into a more sporty brand. What's it called? Oh yeah Scion.

Originally Posted by Giccin

You can just put the trucks together in the TRD lot. "Sir/ma'am would you like badass? Or regular?"

The world is going to explode when its called... the "Scion Supra." And the whole world of car enthusiests die of the American's retarded child 'Scion'. lol

So you would have a Lot with 2 brands of cars side by side. That won't make things confusing. Then one brands cars on a different lot, and the others on yet another different lot? Yeah there won't ever be a TRD Brand of Cars/Trucks. Just Models.

Just the way the world would explode of Toyota collaborated with Subaru and put a Flat 4 in a Car and call it the successor to the AE86.

I almost wish they would, then we could have a whole new generation of Enthusiasts without prejudices. I know I'm going to butcher this saying, but something along the lines of the tides of time will sweep away those who stand still too long.

10 years ago nobody saw the Demise of Pontiac or the Rise of Hyundai. The idea of them making a Genesis was laughable. Yet here we are today.

Toyota is positioning Scion to take on more powerful Sports cars. If they choose to make them they will be under the Scion brand. Lexus has their sports cars already there wouldn't be a market for a Supra like car. Scion on the other hand will be in a position to sell something like that.

Mark my words IF the Supra comes back. It will be a Scion. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

[bofa]

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

10 years ago nobody saw the Demise of Pontiac

I was following you until that. Even Ray Charles saw that coming.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

Who sets the price point for the Brand? That's right Toyota. If they wanted to sell the LF-A as a Scion they could.



Except they don't have anything they could rasie it under. Other than oh I know! The brand they are molding into a more sporty brand. What's it called? Oh yeah Scion.



So you would have a Lot with 2 brands of cars side by side. That won't make things confusing. Then one brands cars on a different lot, and the others on yet another different lot? Yeah there won't ever be a TRD Brand of Cars/Trucks. Just Models.

Just the way the world would explode of Toyota collaborated with Subaru and put a Flat 4 in a Car and call it the successor to the AE86.

I almost wish they would, then we could have a whole new generation of Enthusiasts without prejudices. I know I'm going to butcher this saying, but something along the lines of the tides of time will sweep away those who stand still too long.

10 years ago nobody saw the Demise of Pontiac or the Rise of Hyundai. The idea of them making a Genesis was laughable. Yet here we are today.

Toyota is positioning Scion to take on more powerful Sports cars. If they choose to make them they will be under the Scion brand. Lexus has their sports cars already there wouldn't be a market for a Supra like car. Scion on the other hand will be in a position to sell something like that.

Mark my words IF the Supra comes back. It will be a Scion. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

Lexus already jacked the new Supra when they changed the aluminum-chassis, 2UR powered Toyota project, that would've been a wicked GT-R competitor, to the F1-inspired, carbon-chassis LFA.

[Giccin]

Originally Posted by ToyotaObsession

So you would have a Lot with 2 brands of cars side by side. That won't make things confusing. Then one brands cars on a different lot, and the others on yet another different lot? Yeah there won't ever be a TRD Brand of Cars/Trucks. Just Models.

Just the way the world would explode of Toyota collaborated with Subaru and put a Flat 4 in a Car and call it the successor to the AE86.

Toyota is positioning Scion to take on more powerful Sports cars. If they choose to make them they will be under the Scion brand. Lexus has their sports cars already there wouldn't be a market for a Supra like car. Scion on the other hand will be in a position to sell something like that.

Mark my words IF the Supra comes back. It will be a Scion. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

Don't know where you live but Scion and Toyota their lots are conjoined where I'm at. Now that Scion's sales have been complete shit.

I'm not even sure if you're being satirical or sarcastic about that Toyota/subaru comment.

And I honestly don't think Toyota is trying to "position" scion to take on more powerful sports car. Scion probably convinced mother Toyota to give them a helping hand since their brand is complete shit. Marketing sucked as well as the targeted people drove them.

And if scion took the supra. Everyone will say. Fuck ToyotaUSA/Scion. Americans screw everything up. Lol

[WingsofWar]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Lexus already jacked the new Supra when they changed the aluminum-chassis, 2UR powered Toyota project, that would've been a wicked GT-R competitor, to the F1-inspired, carbon-chassis LFA.

I remember this, back during the first prototype renders were made, Toyota was exploring the next gen supra, which unfortunately for us average consumers..the project evolved into something bigger. Which is why you see so many design cues from Soarer/Supra/and even the 2000gt based from the early concept models. As an idea, the LF-A was quite possibly originally the supra...but in the end at birth..it did not have Supra DNA.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by WingsofWar

I remember this, back during the first prototype renders were made, Toyota was exploring the next gen supra, which unfortunately for us average consumers..the project evolved into something bigger. Which is why you see so many design cues from Soarer/Supra/and even the 2000gt based from the early concept models. As an idea, the LF-A was quite possibly originally the supra...but in the end at birth..it did not have Supra DNA.

Control of the project passed to Lexus the year after (I think, I posted a whole lot on this a year and a bit ago) they had their best F1 season ever. I think they were anticipating big F1 success and the Lexus people felt like they could cash in. Switched to carbon tub and V10 then.

If you look at the LFA from the side profile, the silhouette is pure Mk4 Supra. I would have preferred it as a GT-R competitor in price, with the aluminum chassis (3500 lbs), 414 hp V8, Getrag 6 speed, and LFA handling. I think it would've done more for Toyota's performance image than the LFA by being actually attainable. And I also think even with those specs would've handed the GT-R its ass on a lot of tracks. But they would be close enough for a good rivalry.

Oh well...