Engine idle chirping (cricket) noise poll. - Page 76 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

HunterGreene · 10-03-2012, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jun_

I thought there wasn't one out for the BRZ yet, only the FRS. Unless I'm wrong, could you link me to it?

There isn't one for the BRZ yet, you are correct. But your dealer is still dead wrong. Ticking is normal, chirping is not.

alrashwa · 10-03-2012, 02:08 PM

Subaru has issued a TSB, not sure why they make it so difficult to access though. It shows up in this list: http://techinfo.subaru.com/static/whatsNew.html

HunterGreene · 10-03-2012, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alrashwa

Subaru has issued a TSB, not sure why they make it so difficult to access though. It shows up in this list: http://techinfo.subaru.com/static/whatsNew.html

Apparently I stand corrected.

Opie · 10-03-2012, 02:23 PM

Subaru just released that TSB today...TSB #09-54-12 for VIN's BEFORE: D*603383

2point0 · 10-03-2012, 02:25 PM

Thanks for that! My car goes in tomorrow so now I have a TSB# to reference.

alrashwa · 10-03-2012, 02:26 PM

Anyone have access to the PDF? I'd be interested in comparing it to the Scion TSB

dsgerbc · 10-03-2012, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opie

Subaru just released that TSB today...TSB #09-54-12 for VIN's BEFORE: D*603383

Uhm, a PDF?
Pretty-pretty please? :happy0180:

SemperFly · 10-03-2012, 03:01 PM

Perfect timing.

Quote:

Hi T,

I brought my BRZ in for an idle 'chirping' in the engine that occurred after the car was warmed up. Your technicians reproduced the behavior and informed me that the sound was normal. It's a very obnoxious sound and 'normal' or not, it's unacceptable and is something that needs to be resolved. Scion just released this TSB for their FR-S (essentially the same car as the BRZ) formally addressing the problem as anything but normal and I expect Subaru will do the same.

TSB is attached.

Thanks,
Matt

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T
Oct 2 (1 day ago)

to me
Good morning Matt,

Thank you for the TSB. I’m not sure if the hi pressure fuel pump system is the same parts on the Subaru as the Scion. I am forwarding the TSB to our shop foreman so he can research it and let me know if need to get you back in, or what our next step is.

Thanks!
T

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Hi Matt,

I have forwarded your email to our regional rep. Subaru will not allow us to follow a Scion TSB. They may be the same parts etc., but Subaru does not acknowledge Sion’s TSB’s, just like Scion would not acknowledge Subaru’s TSB’s. If Subaru is showing it to be normal operation, we are not allowed to perform a repair unless they deem it to be abnormal. I have submitted the information to our Rep and filed it with Subaru. We will just need to wait and see what Subaru comes up with regarding the issue. You can also call customer care as well to voice your concern regarding the noise and that Subaru does not have a fix for it. Their phone number is (800)782-2783.

Thank you,
T

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4:44 PM (18 hours ago)

to T
Thanks T. I understand the situation and appreciate the acknowledgement. As I said, I expect Subaru will release a TSB sometime in the near future and eagerly await it.

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T
5:13 PM (17 hours ago)

to me
Thanks for your understanding Matt. Have a wonderful week.
T

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T
10:49 AM (20 minutes ago)

to me
Good morning Matt,

Guess what Subaru came out with this morning… a TSB on this issue. I have written a repair order for you so we could order in parts. I will let you know when they come in. Keep in mind, there will still be some noise when it transfers over to direct injection. This is normal and will not be repaired. Have a great week, I will call you when we get parts.

Thanks!
T

2point0 · 10-04-2012, 01:26 PM

I dropped mine off at Kearny Mesa this morning. They apparently are well aware of the TSB. The tech walked up and asked, "Is this for the fuel pump?" Hopefully that means it'll be fixed.

jeebus · 10-04-2012, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2point0

I dropped mine off at Kearny Mesa this morning. They apparently are well aware of the TSB. The tech walked up and asked, "Is this for the fuel pump?" Hopefully that means it'll be fixed.

maybe I should go to Kearny Mesa instead of Bob Baker.

NYC BRZ · 10-04-2012, 02:14 PM

Called my dealer this morning and mentioned the TSB number. I picked the car up yesterday afternoon and they had supposedly checked early that morning and found nothing. Waiting to hear back on what they're doing.

2point0 · 10-04-2012, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeebus

maybe I should go to Kearny Mesa instead of Bob Baker.

I actually had planned to go there (I live in Oceanside), but since I work in Poway, I could get the Kearny Mesa shuttle to take me to work (Poway). Otherwise, I'd have to take a day off of work for this crap.

We need more Subie dealerships in the San Diego area!

smokeyFRS · 10-04-2012, 07:39 PM

FYI - Just found this article:
Rough idle problem hits Scion FR-S, Subaru BRZ coupes

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2012...NEWS/121009939

normanb21 · 10-04-2012, 11:02 PM

Ok just got the chirp today 500miles. Car is about a month old. If its the same part number on the tsb then what's the point in the recall? Also what if our cars are not meant to run e10 in our USA fuel?
E10 Drivability Issues:

1. Engine performance problems, often simply due to lower energy of ethanol-blends.
2. Hard starting and operating difficulty.
3. Hesitation and lack of acceleration.
4. Stalling, especially at low speeds.
Aren't these issues we are dealing with?
I wonder if just putting in some gas without ethanol in it will solve all our issues?

View Poll Results: Do you have chirping (cricket) noise during idle once the car is warmed up?
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10-04-2012, 02:14 PM	#1061
NYC BRZ AutoX Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 08 Pontiac G8 GT,13 GBS BRZ Limited Location: Queens, NY Posts: 723 Thanks: 168 Thanked 118 Times in 83 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Called my dealer this morning and mentioned the TSB number. I picked the car up yesterday afternoon and they had supposedly checked early that morning and found nothing. Waiting to hear back on what they're doing. __________________ 2013 BRZ Limited- GBS - 6MT -VIN #0937 ~~NYR SCCA # 18 C Street R (CSR)~~ "But there’s no mistaking the noise. This car is loud, and not in a particularly nice way. There’s no crisp exhaust note, no induction wheezing. It’s just the sound of petrol exploding in a metal box." - Jeremy Clarkson

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alrashwa Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: '12 370Z Monterey Blue Location: Washington Posts: 230 Thanks: 120 Thanked 60 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Subaru has issued a TSB, not sure why they make it so difficult to access though. It shows up in this list: http://techinfo.subaru.com/static/whatsNew.html

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10-04-2012, 11:02 PM	#1064
normanb21 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: black frs Location: dearborn mi Posts: 101 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ok just got the chirp today 500miles. Car is about a month old. If its the same part number on the tsb then what's the point in the recall? Also what if our cars are not meant to run e10 in our USA fuel? E10 Drivability Issues: 1. Engine performance problems, often simply due to lower energy of ethanol-blends. 2. Hard starting and operating difficulty. 3. Hesitation and lack of acceleration. 4. Stalling, especially at low speeds. Aren't these issues we are dealing with? I wonder if just putting in some gas without ethanol in it will solve all our issues?

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