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BRAWL · 10-02-2012, 10:47 PM

I want a review of the difference in not just braking power but also driving feel due to the weight reduction

JRitt · 10-03-2012, 10:06 AM

Yesterday I received another review and pics from an S2000 customer who installed our Sprint System on his car. This gives a good idea of what it looks like behind black wheels of a different type (sweet Volk CE28N's), and on a dark colored car (this is actually called Moon Rock Metallic, and isn't a USDM color). Check out our blog for a couple more pics and the review.

RaceTech · 10-03-2012, 10:14 AM

"At the end of the day the pedal pressure was still as firm as when I first installed them. I find myself wanting/needing a proper harness to secure myself more tightly as I did feel like i was being thrown forward at some of the harder braking corners."

Thats the best quote from your customer Jeff.

JRitt · 10-03-2012, 10:40 AM

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woohoo!

on the front steps today. more info and an install write up on the blog and facebook coming soon...

I doubt you'll run into any install issues...super easy...but don't hesitate to call if you have any questions. Enjoy!

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I want a review of the difference in not just braking power but also driving feel due to the weight reduction

That is a very difficult one to put into words. My hunch is that a sensitive driver would be able to feel a difference if they installed the brakes and a lightweight wheel/tire package. I went with a 7 lb. Volk wheel on my Miata and instantly felt a difference, but at 2100 lbs that car is quite different from the FT86. When I have the passenger seat in and someone is riding with me on the track (+200 lbs or more), the handling is all jacked up and it feels like I lost a cylinder.

I remember an article quite a few years ago (2003?)...think it may have been a Dodge SRT-4 in Sport Compact Car? They put a big brake kit on it that shaved a bunch of weight and were actually able to see a measurable acceleration increase.

Regardless, shaving 20 lbs. of unsprung weight is likely impossible via any other route on these cars. Knocking 20 lbs. off the nose is also a very nice bump in the proper direction for overall front to rear weight bias.

In 8 years from now when these cars are selling for $10k and people are desperately stripping them down and drilling speed holes in them to remove every ounce, an unsprung weight reduction of 20lbs. will be viewed as a gift from the heavens.

track_warrior · 10-03-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JRitt

Yesterday I received another review and pics from an S2000 customer who installed our Sprint System on his car. This gives a good idea of what it looks like behind black wheels of a different type (sweet Volk CE28N's), and on a dark colored car (this is actually called Moon Rock Metallic, and isn't a USDM color). Check out our blog for a couple more pics and the review.

Jeff , are those 17's?? They look great, im seriously considering selling my RPF1'S and getting some CE'S

Dave-ROR · 10-03-2012, 03:35 PM

Awesome! That bastid Jeff convinced me to go this route I think

F1point4 · 10-03-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Awesome! That bastid Jeff convinced me to go this route I think

yea he convinced me too. Just gotta save!

JRitt · 10-03-2012, 04:36 PM

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Jeff , are those 17's?? They look great, im seriously considering selling my RPF1'S and getting some CE'S

Yep...the wheels on the S2000 are 17x8.5 +30 CE28N. Those just may be my favorite wheels. I have a 14" bronze set of CE28N's on my NA miata currently, and they weigh 7 1/2 lbs. each. I can literally change wheels with one hand...they're ridiculous.

Dave-ROR · 10-05-2012, 11:10 AM

Ordered

kidgogeta · 10-05-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JRitt

Out the door Friday! I'll get you tracking number asap.

I got this from an RX7 customer...just had to share, and the blue actually looks similar to Subaru WR Blue, and it gives an idea how the brakes look behind another wheel style. This car is running the CP3908 discs and CP8350 caliper...same bits that are in our BRZ/FR-S Systems. Man how I love FD's...!!!

What rims are these?

CSG David · 10-05-2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kidgogeta

What rims are these?

AME Tracer TM-02

Dave-ROR · 10-05-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG David

AME Tracer TM-02

Uhhmmmm no..

They are Weds Sport SA-60M. Says it right on the wheel lol

CSG David · 10-05-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Uhhmmmm no..

They are Weds Sport SA-60M. Says it right on the wheel lol

It LOOKS like the AME Tracer TM-02. Thanks for the correction though. What was I thinking?!?!

Dave-ROR · 10-05-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG David

It LOOKS like the AME Tracer TM-02. Thanks for the correction though. What was I thinking?!?!

Similiar, yep

I was confused when the guy asked since it was stamped on the wheel

10-03-2012, 10:06 AM	#170
JRitt Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2012 BRZ Premium WRB 6MT Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 726 Thanks: 230 Thanked 1,423 Times in 381 Posts Mentioned: 81 Post(s)	Yesterday I received another review and pics from an S2000 customer who installed our Sprint System on his car. This gives a good idea of what it looks like behind black wheels of a different type (sweet Volk CE28N's), and on a dark colored car (this is actually called Moon Rock Metallic, and isn't a USDM color). Check out our blog for a couple more pics and the review. __________________ Essex Parts Services- AP Racing / Ferodo / Spiegler / Versodeck Jeff Ritter\|Mgr.- High Performance Division www.essexparts.com

10-03-2012, 03:35 PM	#174
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s)	Awesome! That bastid Jeff convinced me to go this route I think __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

10-05-2012, 11:10 AM	#177
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s)	Ordered __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

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10-02-2012, 10:47 PM	#169
BRAWL Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Toyota 86 GTS Velocity Orange Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 447 Thanks: 74 Thanked 102 Times in 64 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s)	I want a review of the difference in not just braking power but also driving feel due to the weight reduction

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RaceTech Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Race Car Location: Tampa Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	"At the end of the day the pedal pressure was still as firm as when I first installed them. I find myself wanting/needing a proper harness to secure myself more tightly as I did feel like i was being thrown forward at some of the harder braking corners." Thats the best quote from your customer Jeff.

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