Everything & Anything NFL

[rice_classic]

The fact that people lost money on the game should have absolutely no bearing on anything. If it did, then that fact alone would compromise the integrity of the game FAR BEYOND what any replacement refs could.

Here's another thing that REALLY REALLY grinds my gears about the whole bring-back-the-real-refs BS. The "real refs" aren't even full time refs! They have full time jobs and only work the games as a part time gig!!! In fact that's why there's a union lockout is because the NFL wants full time refs! The "real refs" are full-time lawyers, real estate agents, marketing execs, business owners etc etc etc.

It also really grinds my gears that when it comes to the game of Football in America being at risk everyone is behind the union refs even Scott Walker and Paul Ryan.. WTF! Yet when teachers go on strike or the Verizon employees go on strike or the Boeing machinists go on strike all I hear in the news is how "evil" unions are.

Thank you NFL for proving to the world that America has its priorities backwards.


And let me end this rant by saying... As a Seahawks fan, the thing that pisses me off most about that call that gave the Hawks the victory is that they were playing Green Bay and not Pittsburgh!

[M-17]

Originally Posted by rice_classic

The fact that people lost money on the game should have absolutely no bearing on anything. If it did, then that fact alone would compromise the integrity of the game FAR BEYOND what any replacement refs could.

Here's another thing that REALLY REALLY grinds my gears about the whole bring-back-the-real-refs BS. The "real refs" aren't even full time refs! They have full time jobs and only work the games as a part time gig!!! In fact that's why there's a union lockout is because the NFL wants full time refs! The "real refs" are full-time lawyers, real estate agents, marketing execs, business owners etc etc etc.

There's the small hint that gambling could be a factor, but there's no actual solid evidence yet. If anything the real big time gamblers will still eat this up, as well as the fans, cause of the unpredictability in games now. For me I didn't lose too much money on just that game alone, but it screws those who did have large bets. I'm not trying to make an excuse for gamblers or the Packers, but a simple call can cause major consequences. You know how some people can get.

As for the referee situation. it is all about getting the real refs back for the fans and for the NFL teams. The refs that are on lockout should stand up for their cause, but if the NFL wants full time refs then they should get it and take care of the ref's pension plan, training, and qualifications too. If the refs don't want to become full time then they should move on and make room for the other refs who are part of the rotations/crews that want to ref a game.

[Spartan65]

I refuse to watch any football till the Scrubs read this book.

[rice_classic]

Originally Posted by Spartan65

I refuse to watch any football till the Scrubs read this book.

Actually it's more like this book:

http://static.nfl.com/static/content...ule%20Book.pdf

All 120 pages of it. Go nuts.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by rice_classic

... In fact that's why there's a union lockout is because the NFL wants full time refs..!

I haven't pay much attention to pro football in recent years, so geez this is what the strike is about! That's a job I want. You work one day a week for maybe 5 to 8 hours, August through December. Where's the "full-time" work in that?

[rice_classic]

Here's the Specifics... I left out #1 because it was about increasing the numbers of games which wasn't going to happen anyway because the Players Union opposes that too.

2. Salary

There are 121 union referees in the NFL, and they share a total annual salary pool of $18 million. That shakes out to about $150,000 per year, on average – a number the NFL Referees’ Union would like to see increase. “The two sides have narrowed the gap on overall compensation. It is a gap that could be closed with some minor concessions by both sides,” Millis writes.
When the NFL and the referees’ union spoke two weeks ago before the regular season began, the NFL offered to add another $1 million to the refs’ salary pool, increasing average yearly pay to around $189,000 by 2016.
Making six figures to roam the sidelines at 16 or so football games per year might seem like a cushy gig, but watching the replacement refs on the field has proven it to be anything but. It’s tough. Skirmishes between plays have become a common sight in the season’s first two weeks; at one point during the Monday night game in Atlanta, both the Bronco and Falcon benches cleared in what threatened to become a baseball-style brawl. We’d see a lot less of such behavior under the union refs, who are used to players and coaches yelling in their faces and threatening to get physical. They aren’t afraid of it; the replacements are.
What’s more, NFL referees spend years training before they take the field, and spend major chunks of their offseasons studying up on new rules, watching game film, and training (just like the players and coaches). “These professional game officials — noted until this season by the NFL as being 'the best in sports,' have spent years honing their skills, just like the athletes starring on the field,” Millis writes.

3. Extra officiating crews

In order to reduce the strain and travel schedule of the existing referees, the NFL wants to add more. Currently, there are 17 officiating crews – one for each possible game per week, plus one alternate. The NFL wants to add three, bringing the total to 20 crews and 140 referees. This would improve the quality officiating, they say, because it would allow them to groom more refs, root out officials who are performing poorly, and ease rookie refs into NFL officiating. The referees feel their pay, and job security, would be affected.

4. Full time vs. part time

Current league officials only work part time for the NFL, and most have other jobs. But the league wants to hire a corps of seven full-time officials (one for each refereeing position) to train recruits, scout, and do other things referees do, but year round. 90 percent of the union referees oppose this, not wanting to leave their other jobs and the money they provide. The NFLRA has said that they don’t totally oppose the idea of full time refs, but, again, they feel their pay might be inadequate.

[Shagaliscious]

NFL officials end lockout

[jstans84]

Originally Posted by Shagaliscious

NFL officials end lockout

[S2kphile]

I wouldn't be surprised if the real refs mess up the first week maybe second as they get up to speed.

[M-17]

Originally Posted by S2kphile

I wouldn't be surprised if the real refs mess up the first week maybe second as they get up to speed.

But it won't be as bad as the fake refs.

Glad they fixed that mess up.

[S2kphile]

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Yeah, what great game to start the week. I won my bet can't wait for Sunday.

[jstans84]

Falcons are 4-0 and the 'aints are 0-4! Hell yeah! Another great day for football!

[mach330]

The J.E.T.S got spanked by my niners. We got our own version of tebow.

Tap'd from my G-Nex

[jstans84]

Originally Posted by mach330

The J.E.T.S got spanked by my niners. We got our own version of tebow.

Tap'd from my G-Nex

A quarterback that was good in college but can't really measure up to NFL standards and will get replaced next season?