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Old 09-21-2012, 08:16 PM   #15
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ive had many people I know personally who have rode in and built many cars with different coilover including ohlins kw BC tein and megans and they said that even though they are cheap they are very good especially for the price. im using the car as a dd with some spirited rides down twistys with a possibility of autox. That being said I dont need high end coilovers. Im looking for adjustabilty as well as an improvement (doesnt need to be a massive one) over stock.

But I do know where youre coming from and completely agree. its just that kw's mifht be overkill for my needs.

can you suggeat a coilover that fits my needs?

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Anyone who even compares Megans to Bilsteins, KW's, and especially Ohlins very likely doesn't have a clue what a good suspension feels like.

OP-99% of coilovers under $2000 or so are going to be a downgrade performance wise from stock on anything but THE smoothest pavement.

Please don't degrade your car that was designed from the ground up to be an amazing handler with one-size-fits-all Megans, BC's, etc., etc.. It'd be permanently dressing your supermodel wife in an XL sweatsuit you bought at Walmart.

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Old 09-21-2012, 08:35 PM   #16
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Anyone who even compares Megans to Bilsteins, KW's, and especially Ohlins very likely doesn't have a clue what a good suspension feels like.

OP-99% of coilovers under $2000 or so are going to be a downgrade performance wise from stock on anything but THE smoothest pavement.

Please don't degrade your car that was designed from the ground up to be an amazing handler with one-size-fits-all Megans, BC's, etc., etc.. It'd be permanently dressing your supermodel wife in an XL sweatsuit you bought at Walmart.

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love that last anology Nathan!

OP, great price doesn't always equal great quality. The reason why you pay so much for let's say a KW V3 system is the technology, racing history, and superb quality that backs up the product. For instance, KW not only designs and manufacturers the coilovers, but they test them as well to TUV certification levels. Moreover, KW has a TUV certification for EVERY ride height setting, including the lowest possible setting available. Plus all their strut housing/shock bodies are T-304 Stainless Steel so they are completely impervious to rust, corrosion, and salt on the roads. Furthermore, all their brackets at 10.9 rated T-6 Aluminum alloy that are all anodized as well.

Yeah...you get what you pay for.

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Old 09-21-2012, 09:08 PM   #17
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Alight thanks for the info, guess ill be shelling out the cash for kw or cusco.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:11 PM   #18
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It really depends on what you want. If your just looking for a slight drop, then take a look at the lowering springs out there and shop around for your desired look.

If you want to just slam your ride, then the budget coilovers may be your answer, just don't believe the hype that it'll also provide a real upgrade in handling.

A lowered car may feel like its riding on rails on the street, but when pushed to the limits the poor performing dampers won't keep up. Also, many times their adjusters don't really adjust to the same levels from stock to shock.

Unfortuantely, real speed from suspension cost real bucks.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:16 PM   #19
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im not looking to slam, maybe just an inch all around.

Dont get me wrong i like the idea of springs and shocks or just springs but i need the adjustability because of hawaii safety check laws
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im not looking to slam, maybe just an inch all around.

Dont get me wrong i like the idea of springs and shocks or just springs but i need the adjustability because of hawaii safety check laws
if by adjustability you meant ride height and not shock setting just spend $400 on some ground control sleeves or maybe get a shock with multiple spring perches
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I've had megan coilovers on my car for about a month now and have had no problem with them. Mainly I went with them because of the price but in the long run I do plan to upgrade to something else, but for now as a daily driven car that occasionally sees some drifting and a car I plan to auto x a bit in the future the ride is pretty good. A lot of people who talk bad about megan haven't even tried them and I have friends who have had megan coilovers on their car for awhile now now with no problems. Obviously you're not going to get the quality of a coilover setup thats over $2k but for the price they're definitely good. If you plan on doing far more then normal driving then I would suggest going with something else but for normal driving megans are fine.
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:45 PM   #22
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My friend has Megan coilovers on his MX-5. According to him they're made in the same factory with the same specs as the Teins are. I've ridden in his Miata and it handles like a go kart. It drives amazing.
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I had Megans on my last car (Miata) and Stance, Teins and H&Rs on other previous cars. Megans are impressive for the money. Build quality has really improved and their ride isnt bad for daily once you get it dialed in. I regularly tracked and daily drove a car with H&Rs and Teins and they were great. Teins had the most comfortable for daily and best handling on track from my experience. I would consider Megans again. I have nothing bad to say about them. Personally for my FRS though, im considering KWs.
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I just know from driving my friends' cars with TEIN Flex, BC Racing, and Megan coilovers that ride compliance goes to shit on all but the smoothest roads. I was just out two nights ago with my friends in their two 240SX's and two Miatas and it was hilarious watching them bump up and down on normal straight roads. Of course they were all slammed and there was no shock travel left, but you get the idea. My friend with the TEIN's in his STi actually sold them and went for a revalved shock/Eibach spring combo, which he is much happier with. I run Ground Controls with Koni inserts and Cusco camber plates, and I'm pretty happy with the result considering it cost the same as a K-Sport/D2/F2 or BC setup. The only other option for my MR2 are Toda Fightex which cost $3,600; they don't even have remote reservoirs which I feel like for that price they should.
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Ground control I believe has a coilover sleeve kit out now but you might have to call them. It's another option using the stock struts and having height adjustability.

I have this installed on my car, the ride is great.. there are a few owners that uses the same kit.
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I just know from driving my friends' cars with TEIN Flex, BC Racing, and Megan coilovers that ride compliance goes to shit on all but the smoothest roads. I was just out two nights ago with my friends in their two 240SX's and two Miatas and it was hilarious watching them bump up and down on normal straight roads. Of course they were all slammed and there was no shock travel left, but you get the idea. My friend with the TEIN's in his STi actually sold them and went for a revalved shock/Eibach spring combo, which he is much happier with. I run Ground Controls with Koni inserts and Cusco camber plates, and I'm pretty happy with the result considering it cost the same as a K-Sport/D2/F2 or BC setup. The only other option for my MR2 are Toda Fightex which cost $3,600; they don't even have remote reservoirs which I feel like for that price they should.
Good post.

Most budget coilovers compromise bump travel at even moderate drops because they aren't really designed for the car. Not to mention the valving.

I notice most people claiming Megans/BC's are good list Tein Flex's as "great" coilovers.

If you've never felt a car with a properly valved setup (Bilstein, KW, AST and up) it's easy to think that the "go kart" feel of cheap coilovers means good handling. It doesn't. That go kart feeling comes from the car having extremely limited bump travel. You have a tiny bit of initial movement and then the spring rate goes to infinity. At moderate speeds, this may lend to a very, "Connected" feel, because you're literally connected directly to the ground with no suspension to speak of. But with any real high speed use, it results in very nasty characteristics that are very hard to predict. The limit comes on hard and fast with not a lot of warning as your effective spring rate goes to infinity when you run out of travel. No bueno.

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I had Megan's on my GS400. Not the EZ streets. The Megan Tracks. 32 way adjustable dampening. Drove with them for 15,000 miles.

I felt that they had a nice ride up to about 10 mph over the speed limit. Scary at higher speeds. Just my opinion....

I tell people now, that they were built for "the sale", not use. They looked shiny right out of the box. They also worked better than the stock blown shocks i bought the car with. lol.

Megan's: for slamming and budget minded folk. I would't think that you would want them for tracking. Though I am sure some do. Again: Just my opinion.
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I had Megan's on my GS400. Not the EZ streets. The Megan Tracks. 32 way adjustable dampening. Drove with them for 15,000 miles.

I felt that they had a nice ride up to about 10 mph over the speed limit. Scary at higher speeds. Just my opinion....

I tell people now, that they were built for "the sale", not use. They looked shiny right out of the box. They also worked better than the stock blown shocks i bought the car with. lol.

Megan's: for slamming and budget minded folk. I would't think that you would want them for tracking. Though I am sure some do. Again: Just my opinion.
not that i am making an argument for the megans but a gs400 is a pretty big car. thats probably a large part of why driving it so fast is scary
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