Scion FR-S Owner: Fed Up With Poor Quality Control [pics] - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

driftartist · 09-19-2012, 09:01 PM

hey well now you can get those snazzy pre redded out tails that look all fancy

Septic · 09-19-2012, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Wouldnt it technicaly be a Subaru quality control since like 90% of the car is subaru and its built in a Subaru plant? And Subaru's had some quality control issues from what ive heard......

doesnt hurt to yell in their direction too

True, but at the end of the day Toyota should still be on the hook - after all their logo (Toyota, Scion) is on the car, they should enforce their quality control standards, regardless who makes the car.

RRnold · 09-19-2012, 09:21 PM

Even thought I can't 100% feel your frustration, I do feel sorry for those who have to go through these problems. I trusted my gut instincts by waiting only b/c its a 1st year production and wasn't build by Toyota. Majority of the issues owners are facing point to Subaru.

This issue has been addressed by Moto to Toyota and based on his post, it should have been fixed. They can't really take into account the ones that have already went off the production line but I do believe they have this issue taken care of.

tonystewart · 09-19-2012, 09:39 PM

My advice to any car owner is to purchase a box of damprid hanging moisture absorbers. $7 at your local target walmart home depot lowes. My 2006 Sienna & Avalon , 2008 TC & the new FRS have had them since new. Yes it costs but the two older cars still smell new.

TonyJZX · 09-20-2012, 12:04 AM

wow 1st world problems

_hollywood · 09-20-2012, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyJZX

wow 1st world problems

True, my car is going in tomorrow to replace the drivers side taillight, not a big deal, but my car did smell musty after a big rain last night, i hope that it doesnt become a long term problem.....

Maybe the water leakage is the next "CEL" for this car.....still 1st world problems

rice_classic · 09-20-2012, 12:44 AM

Uhhh... Isn't condensation in the tail light a TSB or a recall? Just go back to the dealer and have them perform the TSB/recall.

frsinpa · 09-20-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic

Uhhh... Isn't condensation in the tail light a TSB or a recall? Just go back to the dealer and have them perform the TSB/recall.

I already did that... and the same problem is back again. That's kinda the issue if you catch my drift.

rice_classic · 09-20-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by frsinpa

I already did that... and the same problem is back again. That's kinda the issue if you catch my drift.

I see, said the blind man to the deaf guy.

frsinpa · 09-20-2012, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic

I see, said the blind man to the deaf guy.

No need to troll... it's actually a pretty antisocial and counterproductive activity.

_hollywood · 09-20-2012, 02:19 PM

Now i see the problem, taillight fixed then needs repair, thats frustrating.

Its not so much that they will replace it for free, its that you have to take time out of your day to keep bringing it back, im hoping mine is just oil changes and regular maintenance from here on.

Synack · 09-20-2012, 02:24 PM

I blame Subaru

jadewbj · 09-20-2012, 02:26 PM

Are you sure they replaced the tail light like they were supposed to the first time. Could be a crappy dealer trying to silicone it. It is a faulty part that cracks and needs to be replaced with an updated part per the TSB.

SubieNate · 09-20-2012, 02:49 PM

It's funny all these people blaming Subaru for everything.

Go to a Subaru forum and the loyalists have been bemoaning the design changes etc that have happened since the Toyota partnership started. It's all about perspective.

For what it's worth, Subaru has an excellent overall reliability track record. The older NA EJ's were bombproof (EJ22 especially). The headgasket issues were a problem but they were fixed. No worse than the sludge problems Toyota had in the 90's.

I know of many EJ's with 250k+ miles (Some up to 400k!) with no issues.

Let's face it. Sometimes cars have little foibles that take ironing out.

Nathan

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_hollywood Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 97 itr sold Location: WI Posts: 565 Thanks: 183 Thanked 165 Times in 98 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Now i see the problem, taillight fixed then needs repair, thats frustrating. Its not so much that they will replace it for free, its that you have to take time out of your day to keep bringing it back, im hoping mine is just oil changes and regular maintenance from here on. __________________ FR-S #56 of 86 Raven MT *FOR SALE*

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driftartist Kurenai Samurai Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Red and manual Location: east bay,ca Posts: 794 Thanks: 186 Thanked 327 Times in 203 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	hey well now you can get those snazzy pre redded out tails that look all fancy

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rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,174 Thanks: 757 Thanked 4,208 Times in 1,808 Posts Mentioned: 78 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Uhhh... Isn't condensation in the tail light a TSB or a recall? Just go back to the dealer and have them perform the TSB/recall.

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SubieNate Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Ultramarine Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 959 Thanks: 288 Thanked 560 Times in 269 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's funny all these people blaming Subaru for everything. Go to a Subaru forum and the loyalists have been bemoaning the design changes etc that have happened since the Toyota partnership started. It's all about perspective. For what it's worth, Subaru has an excellent overall reliability track record. The older NA EJ's were bombproof (EJ22 especially). The headgasket issues were a problem but they were fixed. No worse than the sludge problems Toyota had in the 90's. I know of many EJ's with 250k+ miles (Some up to 400k!) with no issues. Let's face it. Sometimes cars have little foibles that take ironing out. Nathan

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