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Old 09-13-2012, 03:23 PM   #43
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Every single car on the line experiences the same thing when the motor is turned over for the first time.

A wide open throttle run and then slamming on the brakes. ZOMGABUSEURGONNABREAKURMOTAR.

Your posts smacked of a lack of understanding of the purpose of the break-in process.

If you know so much; as it seems, care to explain to me instead? I'm all ears.
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:31 PM   #44
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This forum just makes me laugh as to all the stupid conclusions people jump into without having any real data on what is going on with the car. The op has not provided any more details. For all i know it was aliens in the engine bay. Pathetic......
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I never said I was in favor of it. I'm not, but it would be a way for them to force owners to abide by their break-in suggestions. I'm not in favor of seat belt laws, helmet laws, airbags or the other safety equipment that is forced on us. These items are on modern cars due to insurance company lobbying politicians to make them mandatory. Very few, if anyone begged the car manufacturers to force us to add these these things to our cars, but they are there anyway "for our own safety".
So, to sum it up, if they want people like Johnny Racer (and there's some of Johnny Racer in everyone that owns a FR-S/BRZ), to abide by their 'breakin' suggestions, take away the choice to not use common sense and limit the car electronically.
FWIW, I use seat belts and helmets religiously because I value my safety but I think as an adult, it should be MY choice to do so and not a mandate (kids are a different matter).
Another thing, if you disagree, that's fine, you can still be polite and civil - you don't have to be a fucking asshole with your response.
But maybe that's just the way you are - a fucking asshole.
Dude.. chill. Name calling doesn't make you any better. We're both on the same side arguing for the same thing.... You and I care about the longevity of our cars, but not everyone does. If someone plans on selling their car at 30k miles, why would they care? Also note that it's a suggestion, like you said.

The difference between this and airbags/seat belts/etc. is that those are immediate. In a crash, airbags can save you but improperly braking in your car will not.
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Wait...you're the same guy that peeled off from the lot because a bunch of kids said it's just a Scion...!

Since the engine was not fully broken in yet, everything probably seized up. Depending on the dealer; I think they will try and plug in their computers to determine if you've eff-ed around with the car during the break-in period...(Correct me if I'm wrong, truly guessing here) and try to prove you in the wrong so they can void that warranty of yours.

Good luck with that...
It'll show high revs, but this is a warranty issue UNLESS he did more than he told (massive misshift, etc).

Take the car to the dealer already.
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chances are your scion warranty will be terminated, any wheelspin detected above 60mph will automatically do that, keeping log at your scions black box. I woudnt bring the car to any dealership and just try to fix it yourself.
I assume this was sarcasm?
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LULNUTHN...

Here, let me explain... Because obviously you don't understand.

Assuming this problem is due to the fact that the engine did not break in properly, and the OP "peeled off" the parking lot at cold start...to amuse friends.

Engine that start up cold = thick oil = cannot get between the cam gears, piston rings and cylinder walls, and etc for proper lubrication.

So now you race the cold new engine that hasn't seat it's piston rings properly without proper lubrication; what do you get?

I'll let you figure that one out.

If you are racing the engine when there is improper lubrication to some of the engines vital components especially during a cold start... It could lead to engine seize. I'm just saying it's "possible".
It's also possible that invisible elephants are flying all around us. Hell, they are invisible, how would we know?
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The 4000 rpm limit is immensely important... to long-term reliability of the car. Do you think dealerships will be upset if your showboating today winds up with you getting out of warranty extensive engine work done in 3 years time w/ 45,000 on the engine, as opposed to 10 years down the road with over 150,000 miles on the odometer? Hell no! That's easy money for them.

And what makes you think they "have to put stickers all over the car" regarding break-in periods? They're not responsible for educating the buyer in this way; I mean, it's pretty damn basic common sense that doing burnouts, drifting, and hard-revving a brand new engine are hard on a vehicle. And when you drive your cars harder, then they won't last as long. Simple fact of reality there. I really don't get where people think they're "entitled" to do burnouts and stoplight drags in their cars, and expect them to last as long as a librarian's Camry commuter... all because Toyota markets this as a sports car. Being a "sports car" doesn't change the laws of physics regarding wear-and-tear, guys.

Let's not make this a "Best Break-in Method" thread please. There are varying opinions on this and this thread isn't the place for it.
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Does the ECU store use data, or are you referring to the "black box". In that case, the data is written over every few seconds. It saves only the last few seconds of data before a major crash.
It stores some data, max RPM being one IIRC. Otherwise, it stores the last 30 seconds in the event of a wreck, and possible in the event of failure. I can't remember anymore.
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Every single car on the line experiences the same thing when the motor is turned over for the first time.

A wide open throttle run and then slamming on the brakes. ZOMGABUSEURGONNABREAKURMOTAR.

Your posts smacked of a lack of understanding of the purpose of the break-in process.
Don't forget the lot workers who move the cars around shipyards, into the ships and back off. And the truck driver who loads and unloads cars. And the occasional dealership guy being abusive on a PDI.

I agree that his burnout had absolutely NOTHING to do with this failure.
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A few min ago, pulled out from my driveway the check engine light came on. i ignore it thinking its a minor whatever. i'll take it to the dealer in the morn. but by the time i got to the end on my block all lights came on and i felt i lost the power steer. so i pulled over turn it off for a few second and now it just grinds the motor & wont turn over.

-Battery Check
-Starter Check
-All the Lights are still on when you turn on the ignition

me and my friends pushed it back to my driveway.

this could be the result of an idiotic act i did a few days ago. trying to prove my SCION. i peeled off @ 109 miles.

Could this void my warranty/or whatever coverage i have?
Could i loose the car?
btw im leasing from "millennium toyota"

im @#$%'ed...
your car broke down because of a malfunction.... not because you were too hard on the car

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TAKE THE CAR TO THE DEALERSHIP, AND GET A DIAGNOSTIC DONE, EVERYONE ELSE THAT DOESN'T KNOW CARS AND IS JUST GUESSING PLEASE.... SILENCE!!!!


i felt like big red lettering was necessary for this lol, @WingsofWar will appreciate it lol
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Don't forget the lot workers who move the cars around shipyards, into the ships and back off. And the truck driver who loads and unloads cars. And the occasional dealership guy being abusive on a PDI.

I agree that his burnout had absolutely NOTHING to do with this failure.
excellent point! many people drive the car a little before a customer picks it up
this would substantiate each car having some residual mileage on it, BUT as this poster ''suggests" WE don't know HOW those people drove the car BEFORE it was sold!
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so true! don't be concerned! toyota will take care of you! just continue
to live your life to the fullest! don't let this set back pshycologically impair you!
it's just a car, an inanimate object! can be replaced no worries! don't f**k up
your life over it!
TAKE THE CAR TO THE DEALERSHIP, AND GET A DIAGNOSTIC DONE, EVERYONE ELSE THAT DOESN'T KNOW CARS AND IS JUST GUESSING PLEASE.... SILENCE!!!!


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MAN I'M SO HAPPY I DIDNT VIEW THIS THREAD ALL DAY. I WOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN DEAD BEFORE I COULD'VE FIND OUT WHAT REALLY WENT WRONG.

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