Opti Vs...? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Eyesacky · 09-07-2012, 04:23 AM

Can we get a comprehensive thread going on what else is available for the consumer market as a paint sealant/protectant and what people recommend that isn't Opti-Coat? The stuff sounds great, but I'm sure there's others out there.

I've been out of the detail game for a long time now, but I used to use and love Klasse All In One and Klasse Paint Sealant. I used these on my cars and customers cars all the time. I haven't seen these mentioned at all on here, and was wondering if anyone could lend some input.

Also, what else is out there that you guys are fond of? Zaino is still big, I'm sure, too. Any input greatly appreciated

Cheers,
Isaac

gmblack3 · 09-07-2012, 07:47 AM

Opti coat/guard and Cquartz are permanent coatings.

Wolf's Hard Body is a semi-permanent sealant that will last up to 2 years. It is by far the easiest to apply (can be done with a d/a)

Zaino will last 6 months and was what I used for 7 years prior to these coatings and long term sealants came on the market. KAIO with KPS lasts from 4-6 months.

Then of course you have waxes that will last 4-6 weeks and are a waste of time IMO.

MattR · 09-07-2012, 08:11 AM

I just had my FR-S done with HD Nitro Seal. They advertise 12-18 months protection but my detailer told me to realistically expect 8-12 months. Looks fantastic.

More info: http://www.autopia.org/forum/detaili...-products.html

Pics from my detail: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16655

ATL BRZ · 09-07-2012, 10:10 AM

Had my BRZ coated with Wolfs Hard Body yesterday. Pics here.

911fanatic · 09-07-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

Had my BRZ coated with Wolfs Hard Body yesterday. Pics here.

That looks fantastic! WOW!

911fanatic · 09-07-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by gmblack3

Then of course you have waxes that will last 4-6 weeks and are a waste of time IMO.

I think you mean some waxes will last 4-6 weeks. We have seen waxes like AG HD, Raceglaze 42 / 55 / Black Label and Collinite products all last upwards of 4 months without issue.

Perfections · 09-07-2012, 12:40 PM

Cquartz uk, made for any skill level

Regular cquartz, still pretty simple

Cquartz finest, pro only comes with warranty

Wolfs hardbody or body wrap

Element 119

Permanon

Klasse aio followed by their sealant

Auto finesse tough coat or any of their waxes

Optimum opti seal

Blackfire wet diamond or crystal seal

Collinite 845 or 915

Duragloss 601 followed by 105

Ultima paint guard plus

Smudgeous · 09-12-2012, 08:16 PM

How does Xzilon rank? I know a few dealerships up in NJ were pushing it

boucher · 09-17-2012, 05:31 PM

Whats the cost of opticoat/guard relative to the alternatives?

cnk · 09-17-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by boucher

Whats the cost of opticoat/guard relative to the alternatives?

Not sure about the other alternatives, but OC professionally installed is around $300-350. If you do it yourself, it's $60 just for the OC. You will have to wash, clay, polish if necessary, IPA, and OC it.

JWMotoring · 09-17-2012, 05:52 PM

I'm a Zaino and Blackfire fan. I always get compliments on my old black paint after the Zaino treatment.

Eyesacky · 09-18-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Smudgeous

How does Xzilon rank? I know a few dealerships up in NJ were pushing it

I actually have a mostly empty can of Xzilon. From what I gather, it's a similar sealant coating that dealers install per request. I used to sell detail chemicals to Colonial Hyundai Cadillac and they swore by it. Never seen it mentioned before your post, though!

picus · 09-18-2012, 07:42 PM

Zaino hasn't updated their product line in awhile, so they aren't as popular as they were in say, 2006. Still good products; but you know how detailing is... flighty.

OC is definitely in a class of it's own, or close. Coatings (OC/OG, cQuartz original/finest/UK, gtechniq EXO, Hard Body) are all the rage now.. 2+ years durability, OC/OG says permenant. I've used OC/OG, HB, cQuartz original and Finest... all good products. I find OC/OG the easiest to use, hard to pick a favorite.

For regular sealants/waxes Wolfs Body Wrap, HD Nitro Seal etc are all nice. Waxes, take your pick.

I still love Collinite 915.

Nitesh31 · 09-18-2012, 10:01 PM

+1 for Wolf's hard body

09-07-2012, 04:23 AM	#1
Eyesacky Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: DGM BRZ Limited "Freyja" +2 Miatas Location: NJ Posts: 80 Thanks: 36 Thanked 22 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Opti Vs...? Can we get a comprehensive thread going on what else is available for the consumer market as a paint sealant/protectant and what people recommend that isn't Opti-Coat? The stuff sounds great, but I'm sure there's others out there. I've been out of the detail game for a long time now, but I used to use and love Klasse All In One and Klasse Paint Sealant. I used these on my cars and customers cars all the time. I haven't seen these mentioned at all on here, and was wondering if anyone could lend some input. Also, what else is out there that you guys are fond of? Zaino is still big, I'm sure, too. Any input greatly appreciated Cheers, Isaac

09-07-2012, 07:47 AM	#2
gmblack3 Paint Polishing freak Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 12 BMW 535i GT/11 BMW 335is Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 28 Thanks: 43 Thanked 11 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Opti coat/guard and Cquartz are permanent coatings. Wolf's Hard Body is a semi-permanent sealant that will last up to 2 years. It is by far the easiest to apply (can be done with a d/a) Zaino will last 6 months and was what I used for 7 years prior to these coatings and long term sealants came on the market. KAIO with KPS lasts from 4-6 months. Then of course you have waxes that will last 4-6 weeks and are a waste of time IMO. __________________ Bryan Burnworth

09-07-2012, 08:11 AM	#3
MattR Running in the 90s Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2014 Scion FR-S Monogram Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 286 Thanks: 359 Thanked 89 Times in 63 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just had my FR-S done with HD Nitro Seal. They advertise 12-18 months protection but my detailer told me to realistically expect 8-12 months. Looks fantastic. More info: http://www.autopia.org/forum/detaili...-products.html Pics from my detail: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16655 __________________ 藤原とうふ店（自家用） MattR's Tofu Runner Last edited by MattR; 09-07-2012 at 10:32 AM. Reason: forgot to include photo link

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