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Old 05-18-2011, 12:59 PM   #71
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& iirc last MkIV was '02 (in JP). Huh, interesting...
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Toyota or Subaru?

to answer the question what car is being tested, its both. it is a joint venture project so any data recorded is shared and analyzed by both companies and engineering depts.

when it was in fuji it was 50/50 that was testing not at the same time. here at the ring its actually a little more toyota because they have a larger base compared to subaru. the parts your seeing maybe subaru gift to the test. again this is all for data collecting that's why I said you will see different wheel and tire set ups before but more important everytime it goes out it will have new suspension set ups as well.

we've seen questions about the car styling. toyota when the first concept bowed in late 2009 has been wind tunnel testing the design as early as 2010. the first concept didn't meet standards. while it looked great it wasn't slippery enough and produced a lot of noise. the data was given to the designers and they came up with FT86II. the II like I said is what the actually car will look like the most from a body panel standpoint.
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to answer the question what car is being tested, its both. it is a joint venture project so any data recorded is shared and analyzed by both companies and engineering depts.

when it was in fuji it was 50/50 that was testing not at the same time. here at the ring its actually a little more toyota because they have a larger base compared to subaru. the parts your seeing maybe subaru gift to the test. again this is all for data collecting that's why I said you will see different wheel and tire set ups before but more important everytime it goes out it will have new suspension set ups as well.

we've seen questions about the car styling. toyota when the first concept bowed in late 2009 has been wind tunnel testing the design as early as 2010. the first concept didn't meet standards. while it looked great it wasn't slippery enough and produced a lot of noise. the data was given to the designers and they came up with FT86II. the II like I said is what the actually car will look like the most from a body panel standpoint.

Thanks. Any chance you have any info regarding if Toyota and Scion version will look the same, or if USDM gets a different version compared to the rest of the world? Or is that still in development stage?
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to answer the question what car is being tested, its both. it is a joint venture project so any data recorded is shared and analyzed by both companies and engineering depts.

when it was in fuji it was 50/50 that was testing not at the same time. here at the ring its actually a little more toyota because they have a larger base compared to subaru. the parts your seeing maybe subaru gift to the test. again this is all for data collecting that's why I said you will see different wheel and tire set ups before but more important everytime it goes out it will have new suspension set ups as well.

we've seen questions about the car styling. toyota when the first concept bowed in late 2009 has been wind tunnel testing the design as early as 2010. the first concept didn't meet standards. while it looked great it wasn't slippery enough and produced a lot of noise. the data was given to the designers and they came up with FT86II. the II like I said is what the actually car will look like the most from a body panel standpoint.
Are you connected to Toyota/FT86 development?
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You should read other 3 posts he have made. That'll answer your q
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It looks like a baby Supra turbo now. I have a feeling this car will cost a lot because the celica gt-s with the aero package was 25k and that car didnt come with RWD or a boxer engine with D/I. I think this one will cost about 27-28k with 200 hp.
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It looks like a baby Supra turbo now. I have a feeling this car will cost a lot because the celica gt-s with the aero package was 25k and that car didnt come with RWD or a boxer engine with D/I. I think this one will cost about 27-28k with 200 hp.

They could have different trims (at least the Toyota/Subaru version). Not sure how Scion will handle this but probably through the dealer installed options.
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You should read other 3 posts he have made. That'll answer your q
I did. I was playing dumb and hoping to lead in to a load of questions for him

Didnt want to scare off our next best source of information
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now we are fu%#ing talking! chaNge the hood for the MKII hood and add some fender wide body (like the 05-07 STI) AND WE HAVE A WINNER!
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Here are some fresh photos from the Nurburgring where the Scion FR-S / Toyota FT-86 production prototype is being tested. But this particular test mule loses some camouflage and bares some aggressive bodywork - the front lower bumper, sideskirts, and rear valence. There's also a high wing spoiler attached, which we had not seen on the previous spied test prototype.

I thought the high wing spoiler might indicate that this is the Subaru 216a (Subaru's version of the FR-S / FT-86), but the FT-86 nameplate logo still appears on the front quarter panel of the car (cropped zoom on this is below). So the high wing could simply hark back to the days of the Toyota Supra. Despite that, this could possibly still end up being the Subaru version we're looking at.

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I was wondering what that emblem was when you posted some more closeups yesterday. That is awesome!

The lip kids looks good, not really feeling the wing but it's not a big deal. That was fast that only yesterday, they were driving around and then the next day they have a full on kit mounted. I wonder what tomorrow will bring...
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The car looks so much better with that wing...
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You meant it look much better with the whole kit, not just the spoiler.
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