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SWPBRZ415 · 09-04-2012, 03:32 PM

Was thinking, if the welded washer on the perch is too big. Can't we just add another washer of the right size work? Only if that is the cause of the binding.

thelegaCy · 09-04-2012, 03:40 PM

I'm hesitant on buying these cause I'm worried I won't be able to install them properly... and considering shops can't do it right either I don't know what to do. lol.

mechaghost · 09-04-2012, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelegaCy

I'm hesitant on buying these cause I'm worried I won't be able to install them properly... and considering shops can't do it right either I don't know what to do. lol.

Just wait till we get to the bottom of this

Phaedrus29 · 09-04-2012, 03:55 PM

Do people without the Whiteline tophats have the popping issue? Have people with the popping issue tried swapping out the Whiteline tophats for the stock ones? Maybe that's the culprit??

mechaghost · 09-04-2012, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phaedrus29

Do people without the Whiteline tophats have the popping issue? Have people with the popping issue tried swapping out the Whiteline tophats for the stock ones? Maybe that's the culprit??

My car is in the shop right now being diagnosed by the suspension shop that installed it. I have the factory top hats in the trunk and told them about it..

I'll keep you guys posted

Draco-REX · 09-04-2012, 04:39 PM

Still no popping from my car so far.

I was just thinking about this. Of the two other cars in this thread, one at -0.8 camber and the other at -1.5, mine has the most neg camber at -2.0. If the tolerances are as tight as Myles thinks they are, maybe the more upright angle of my struts due to the max camber setting is providing enough clearance.

I know when un-installed there are no clearance issues. The tophats had no resistance to spinning freely. But when mounted to the car perhaps the strut is angled just enough for the upper perch to touch. I don't know, I didn't look too closely at the clearances after determining that the tophats spun freely.

jamal · 09-04-2012, 05:15 PM

Maybe a tiny short washer the same size as the bearing would fix this?

Anyone have a picture of the bottom of the stock top?

Or maybe it's just an installation issue. RCE drove around with this setup for quite awhile before they released it.

mechaghost · 09-04-2012, 07:29 PM

The shop that installed it diagnosed the top mount as causing the problem. They said the bearings were popping and not the springs. I had them reinstall the original factory top mounts and the popping went away.

Racecomp Engineering · 09-04-2012, 08:26 PM

Thats interesting as I ran this set up for a while with as much as -2.3 front and as little as -1.0.

Mw

mechaghost · 09-04-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Thats interesting as I ran this set up for a while with as much as -2.3 front and as little as -1.0.

Mw

It's probably defective top mounts then

*KID* · 09-05-2012, 12:28 AM

repack the bearings with more greasy. maybe its a defect that they didnt leave enough grease in them, causing them to be dry and get stuck after use and heat.

mechaghost · 09-05-2012, 01:25 AM

The top hats I have are defective and I PM'd @RacecompEngineering about getting a refund and sending it back to them.

Racecomp Engineering · 09-05-2012, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mechaghost

It's probably defective top mounts then

Highly doubt it,but you can call me. Drew checks PM's , I dont too much.

call my cell.

Myles

mechaghost · 09-05-2012, 10:42 AM

I just got off the phone with Racecomp Engineering. I am not pleased with how Myles handled the situation. Worst customer service I have experienced from any of the vendors around here.

I just wanted support for a defective product they sold, but I got a lecture instead on how its not their fault and it is the manufacturer. I get it the first time he told me that, and could have been more supportive rather than implying that the very reputable suspension shop I use was giving up too easily so that they can make money off of me. At first he even refused to call the suspension shop to get all the details and ask questions on what happened. He eventually agreed to talk to the shop if the shop called them.

Anyways, long story short I will be emailing them what the shop found so that they can forward that to Whiteline. I just wish I did not have to go through being treated badly.

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09-04-2012, 03:32 PM	#57
SWPBRZ415 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: brz Location: SF Posts: 38 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Was thinking, if the welded washer on the perch is too big. Can't we just add another washer of the right size work? Only if that is the cause of the binding.

09-04-2012, 03:40 PM	#58
thelegaCy Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: cbs brz limited - RIP Location: east coast Posts: 67 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm hesitant on buying these cause I'm worried I won't be able to install them properly... and considering shops can't do it right either I don't know what to do. lol.

09-04-2012, 03:55 PM	#60
Phaedrus29 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Location: PA Posts: 683 Thanks: 106 Thanked 248 Times in 133 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Do people without the Whiteline tophats have the popping issue? Have people with the popping issue tried swapping out the Whiteline tophats for the stock ones? Maybe that's the culprit??

09-04-2012, 04:39 PM	#62
Draco-REX Corner Junkie Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ, 11 STI, 99 RS Location: Ohio Posts: 2,908 Thanks: 129 Thanked 1,520 Times in 702 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Still no popping from my car so far. I was just thinking about this. Of the two other cars in this thread, one at -0.8 camber and the other at -1.5, mine has the most neg camber at -2.0. If the tolerances are as tight as Myles thinks they are, maybe the more upright angle of my struts due to the max camber setting is providing enough clearance. I know when un-installed there are no clearance issues. The tophats had no resistance to spinning freely. But when mounted to the car perhaps the strut is angled just enough for the upper perch to touch. I don't know, I didn't look too closely at the clearances after determining that the tophats spun freely.

09-04-2012, 07:29 PM	#64
mechaghost Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Silver AT Limited Location: Seattle Posts: 823 Thanks: 145 Thanked 344 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The shop that installed it diagnosed the top mount as causing the problem. They said the bearings were popping and not the springs. I had them reinstall the original factory top mounts and the popping went away.

09-04-2012, 08:26 PM	#65
Racecomp Engineering Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2016 BRZ, 2012 Paris Di2 & 2018 STI Location: Severn, MD Posts: 5,415 Thanks: 3,438 Thanked 7,280 Times in 2,968 Posts Mentioned: 304 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	Thats interesting as I ran this set up for a while with as much as -2.3 front and as little as -1.0. Mw

09-05-2012, 01:25 AM	#68
mechaghost Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Silver AT Limited Location: Seattle Posts: 823 Thanks: 145 Thanked 344 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The top hats I have are defective and I PM'd @RacecompEngineering about getting a refund and sending it back to them.

09-05-2012, 10:42 AM	#70
mechaghost Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Silver AT Limited Location: Seattle Posts: 823 Thanks: 145 Thanked 344 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just got off the phone with Racecomp Engineering. I am not pleased with how Myles handled the situation. Worst customer service I have experienced from any of the vendors around here. I just wanted support for a defective product they sold, but I got a lecture instead on how its not their fault and it is the manufacturer. I get it the first time he told me that, and could have been more supportive rather than implying that the very reputable suspension shop I use was giving up too easily so that they can make money off of me. At first he even refused to call the suspension shop to get all the details and ask questions on what happened. He eventually agreed to talk to the shop if the shop called them. Anyways, long story short I will be emailing them what the shop found so that they can forward that to Whiteline. I just wish I did not have to go through being treated badly.

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