First Spy Pics of Scion FR-S / Toyota FT-86 Production Test Mule! (Updated 5/17)

[Semper]

Originally Posted by Dark

Next Impreza begs to differ.

Quite. It does share some characteristics though.

[Flip]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Did you really expect much more than that from a mid $20k priced car?

It's certainly possible. Was is naive to think it would be anything more? Probably.

I'm still keeping hope though that we might see something closer to the FR-S.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Really? I think chassis follow pretty close
2012 Subaru Impreza

#1 thing that upsets me on 2012 Impreza is Subie have separate Impreza & WRX/STI

Originally Posted by Semper

Quite. It does share some characteristics though.

Maybe I define "close" differently.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Dark

Maybe I define "close" differently.

Yeah I think ultimately looks comes down to that. We can all agree on measurable things like hp, tq, weight, 1/4mile times. But the physical aspect is harder to agree upon.

Originally Posted by chulooz

I expect much more than another coupe. the TC is another coupe, the cobolt is another coupe, the forte is another coupe.

Hopefully this thing will be able to separate itself from other cars, the miata has done it in the $20K range, so i dont see why toyota(scion)/subaru can't

I think most of us can agree upon the performance we would like to see; lightweight, good handling, fun to drive..etc. But the looks are much harder to agree upon. What each of us wants it to look like is going to be different.

[Sea1monkey2]

Originally Posted by Dark

Maybe I define "close" differently.

i see it as very close.

differences include

• foglight area
• headlight eyebrow thing
• they added mirrors
• also door handles
• color?

only minor things that are inconsequential and can be overlooked

[Dark]

Originally Posted by Sea1monkey2

i see it as very close.

differences include

• foglight area
• headlight eyebrow thing
• they added mirrors
• also door handles
• color?

only minor things that are inconsequential and can be overlooked

I see the lines remain the same, but the pillar is higher. Line is not as radical as it's in the concept form. Production looks more round and less aggressive. Production headlight looks retarded compares to concept. Production definitely looks bland and boring compares to the concept. To me, those aggressive lines mean a lot.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Dark

I see the lines remain the same, but the pillar is higher. Line is not as radical as it's in the concept form. Production looks more round and less aggressive. Production headlight looks retarded compares to concept. Production definitely looks bland and boring compares to the concept. To me, those aggressive lines mean a lot.

[ichitaka05]

^I think we went off topic for few pages now LOL

[Dark]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

^I think we went off topic for few pages now LOL

People, go back in the topic if you want ichi to feed you with the real info.

[iff2mastamatt]

Originally Posted by Dark

People, go back in the topic if you want ichi to feed you with the real info.

He should tell us, you never know the world might end on the 21st .

[AIRMAX]

That looks about right for a production car...

People shouldnt be too surprise... the TARGET price is STILL 20K-25K USD....

In Australia, Toyota Sales have already confirmed they will sell it there and the shape is closest to the Mark II, minus the bells and whistles, and some body "lines" that was shown on the Mark III.
With price tag close to 35K-40K AUD.... thats CHEAP... even cheaper than the S15 and previous shape CELICAs.

Now... I do believe that they mentioned 2 grades, possible turbo TRD versions in the range of 50K AUD... not sure about US Scion version. Info. came from word of mouth from Toyota Sales Executives, so they "approximates" and not 100% to the T, but a good indication nonetheless.

The Mark III body kit/exterior kits makes a MASSIVE difference on the looks and I would love for them to offer it as EXTRAs.


The one thing thats a bit disappointing is that the stock suspension is ridiculously DATED.... almost ALL sports cars or sports models come with sports suspensions that lowers the car off the FACTORY.... Sure, we all can simply book a tuner and upgrade the suspensions, BUT thats not the point... MANY people will use the STOCK look as the representative LOOK and compare it to other coupes... it needs to be 1 to 1.5 inches lower.... if NOT... then it definitely NEEDS a PAIR OF SIDE SKIRTS!!!

[Matador]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

Oh yeah, that's shaping up to be a good looking production car!

Lol at all the dolts calling it ugly...(I know I said it earlier, but it was a joke). Its a freekin' test mule....and for a test mule, thats a good lookin' car!

Wasn't joking about the Enkei's though....ugly offset and design for that car.

Seriously, someone chop some work equips or something!

It's a freakin' prototype.

[RRnold]

I guess they are still going with the rear light wedged into the trunk. Hopefully that wing will be an option too because that thing has got to go.

[ToyotaObsession]

Originally Posted by Stubaru

Those are certainly Subaru wheels, I have a set on my forester. The spoiler and the door handles also have a Subaru look to them.

Stu

Door handles?

Those Wheels are pretty basic Enkei wheels. There's a ton of knockoffs of them. So maybe they are the knockoff brand?