Injen Short Ram Intake Installed on my 86 :D

[DriftEightSix]

It adds 10+Hp and 7lb torque

who cares about a vid for sound i want before and after dyno results.

[Symbiont]

Originally Posted by ngabdala

There's no point in buying an intake without a tune for it.

You can get the same performance by buying an aftermarket air filter and putting it in the stock intake. Believe it or not but the stock intake is good. Change the filter.

I'm sorry, but that is a ridiculous statement.

[GenkiElite]

Originally Posted by GodSays

Injen dynos with the hood up

Most people do in order to help simulate the cooling effect of driving down the road at X speed as well as having a large fan but usually the fan isn't enough. Why thumbs down?

[ngabdala]

I disagree man. These need a proper tune to harness anything better than the stock intake with an aftermarket high flow filter.

You didn't quote everything I wrote so I wonder whether or not you stopped reading at that point.

The rest of it was this " Believe it or not but the stock intake is good. Change the filter.

Buy the tuning kit and wait to see who makes the best intake based on the tuned results. Save your money. Also , do the same with the exhaust and wait. The cost of an intake is 33% the cost of the tuning kit. "

That's why I will be waiting to see the numbers of all the intakes with a proper tune to determine which intake I want.

It's very possible by the time that happens I will be adding a turbo which means the intake was a waste of money as it will have to be removed.

If I stay NA I am waiting it out.

Sorry to tell ya you're not getting the advertised numbers provided for your intake. They will be better down the road when you have the ECUtek Tuning Kit and can get true performance increases from it and an aftermarket exhaust.

Originally Posted by Symbiont

I'm sorry, but that is a ridiculous statement.

[ngabdala]

Did you re-insert the MAF sensor? If you did you may not have a tight enough fit at the throttle body and/or where the box attaches to the front of the engine bay. Disconnect then re-attach.

Do you have an oiled filter or is it a dry one? An oiled filter could throw a CEL but not always.

Originally Posted by Flako

I just installed my injene air intake but now my check engine light is on and the codes won't erase, they say permanent?

[Symbiont]

Originally Posted by ngabdala

I disagree man. These need a proper tune to harness anything better than the stock intake with an aftermarket high flow filter.

You didn't quote everything I wrote so I wonder whether or not you stopped reading at that point.

The rest of it was this " Believe it or not but the stock intake is good. Change the filter.

Buy the tuning kit and wait to see who makes the best intake based on the tuned results. Save your money. Also , do the same with the exhaust and wait. The cost of an intake is 33% the cost of the tuning kit. "

That's why I will be waiting to see the numbers of all the intakes with a proper tune to determine which intake I want.

It's very possible by the time that happens I will be adding a turbo which means the intake was a waste of money as it will have to be removed.

If I stay NA I am waiting it out.

Sorry to tell ya you're not getting the advertised numbers provided for your intake. They will be better down the road when you have the ECUtek Tuning Kit and can get true performance increases from it and an aftermarket exhaust.

I quoted what I did because it was an inflammatory statement not backed up by numbers. Misinformation is the bane of forums like these, and you're perpetuating it.

I did independent pulls at another tuning house here in the OC and saw exactly what I saw when my car was being used for the research at Injen. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not running an intake at all right now, actually. I'm stock with the tune, but the intake pulls much better numbers, untuned, than any filter does. To say otherwise is a blatant lie. I'm sorry to see you doing that.

Changing the filter is purely a placebo. There hasn't been any dynos that have shown any consistent gains other than normal variance between pulls. Please do your research before spouting tripe.

Personally, I don't care what you do with your car, but don't trumpet your opinion like it's a fact. In the end, you're only hurting your credibility and providing misinformation to those who don't know better.

[sho220]

Originally Posted by Symbiont

I quoted what I did because it was an inflammatory statement not backed up by numbers. Misinformation is the bane of forums like these, and you're perpetuating it.

I did independent pulls at another tuning house here in the OC and saw exactly what I saw when my car was being used for the research at Injen. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not running an intake at all right now, actually. I'm stock with the tune, but the intake pulls much better numbers, untuned, than any filter does. To say otherwise is a blatant lie. I'm sorry to see you doing that.

Changing the filter is purely a placebo. There hasn't been any dynos that have shown any consistent gains other than normal variance between pulls. Please do your research before spouting tripe.

Personally, I don't care what you do with your car, but don't trumpet your opinion like it's a fact. In the end, you're only hurting your credibility and providing misinformation to those who don't know better.

Ever see this thread? http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ht=filter+test

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by Symbiont

I quoted what I did because it was an inflammatory statement not backed up by numbers. Misinformation is the bane of forums like these, and you're perpetuating it.

I did independent pulls at another tuning house here in the OC and saw exactly what I saw when my car was being used for the research at Injen. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not running an intake at all right now, actually. I'm stock with the tune, but the intake pulls much better numbers, untuned, than any filter does. To say otherwise is a blatant lie. I'm sorry to see you doing that.

Changing the filter is purely a placebo. There hasn't been any dynos that have shown any consistent gains other than normal variance between pulls. Please do your research before spouting tripe.

Personally, I don't care what you do with your car, but don't trumpet your opinion like it's a fact. In the end, you're only hurting your credibility and providing misinformation to those who don't know better.

While it is true that the current aftermarket intakes are not EXACTLY the same as adding a drop in filter, I clearly see ngabdala's point. Go and look at Injen/Airaid's Dyno sheets. They are very unimpressive in the sense that yes, there are gains at some points in the curve but in a lot of other places the curve even goes below stock!

I am sure those curves would change to be on the positive side with a tune. His point is, a tune would make anyone of the intakes better and that's true. He also points out the best thing to do right now is to wait and see what comes down the road which is another accurate and positive thing to say, no misinformation whatsoever. Also, please take a look at FT-86 thread on drop in filters, they saw a peak 5 HP on practically every drop in filter, that seems like consistent results.

Like you said, everyone is entitled to do whatever they want to their car, but he does make some good points.

[gmookher]

forget sound

seeing power gains?

I'm convinced the stock air box can flow better with a foam filter like perrin, sio i wanna see real gains before I put down coin, sound is unimpressive

Horsies float my boat tho

[ngabdala]

Inflammatory remark? Only the inflammatory would see an opinion that way.

I was aiming to educate others and in the end it is their choice. I question whether or not you are able to see the positive.

If it's not for you it's not for you. You did write it is a "ridiculous statement." Rather than add fuel to your ignorant and inflammatory statement I replied "I disagree dude."

Take a look inside rather than project your negative qualities on others just to feel good about yourself. It doesn't work.


Anyways, I hope you feel better. Let's just agree to disagree and not derail or lessen the quality of the thread.

Best wishes man

Originally Posted by Symbiont

I quoted what I did because it was an inflammatory statement not backed up by numbers. Misinformation is the bane of forums like these, and you're perpetuating it.

I did independent pulls at another tuning house here in the OC and saw exactly what I saw when my car was being used for the research at Injen. You have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not running an intake at all right now, actually. I'm stock with the tune, but the intake pulls much better numbers, untuned, than any filter does. To say otherwise is a blatant lie. I'm sorry to see you doing that.

Changing the filter is purely a placebo. There hasn't been any dynos that have shown any consistent gains other than normal variance between pulls. Please do your research before spouting tripe.

Personally, I don't care what you do with your car, but don't trumpet your opinion like it's a fact. In the end, you're only hurting your credibility and providing misinformation to those who don't know better.

[tnt]

You all have good points ...

[Flako]

Yea I checked everything the check engine light turned off but its still pulling two codes that say permanent ????? Help?

[knapper]

Originally Posted by R2RO

Well i really don't believe the manufactures claims, but im thinking it bumps the Hp up 5-9 hp and 4-7lb of torque. But im going to dyno my car, when i find a dyno shop with the OEM Intake and this injen one.

Please tell me where you are purchasing your drugs, I need to get some of whatever it is you are smoking.

No intake is going to be giving you anywhere close to 9HP and 7lb/ft of torque.

Your car might "feel" faster simply due to the sound an intake offer, but I can assure you that 99% of that is completely a figment of your imagination.

[Sall]

Originally Posted by knapper

Please tell me where you are purchasing your drugs, I need to get some of whatever it is you are smoking.

No intake is going to be giving you anywhere close to 9HP and 7lb/ft of torque.

Your car might "feel" faster simply due to the sound an intake offer, but I can assure you that 99% of that is completely a figment of your imagination.

jerk