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Dave-ROR · 08-30-2012, 01:40 PM

I can't completely prevent someone hitting my car, I can prevent Jose from working on my car though :P

RRnold · 08-30-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

I can't completely prevent someone hitting my car, I can prevent Jose from working on my car though :P

Yeah, nothing beats working on your own car. Go to Sears, get the tools, get the manual and DO WORK!

xwd · 08-30-2012, 01:45 PM

The reality of it is shops are going to use impact guns to torque down bolts, especially large ones. I took the suspension on and off my WRX for years using the same bolts and always used an impact gun, you generally get a feel for where the torque needs to be.

If you took your car to a dealer and they had to replace a strut, they are going to impact the bolts. They aren't going to take the time to look at torque specs and bring out a wrench to actually measure the torque.

rmjjensen · 08-30-2012, 02:24 PM

"Jose" needs to invest in a set of fender covers asap

daytrip00 · 08-30-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dwx

The reality of it is shops are going to use impact guns to torque down bolts, especially large ones. I took the suspension on and off my WRX for years using the same bolts and always used an impact gun, you generally get a feel for where the torque needs to be.

If you took your car to a dealer and they had to replace a strut, they are going to impact the bolts. They aren't going to take the time to look at torque specs and bring out a wrench to actually measure the torque.

My mechanic properly torques on bolts. That's why I go to him. Anybody that takes the care to go that extra mile is taking good care of your car.

*KID* · 08-30-2012, 09:18 PM

I wonder how you all torque down that top mount while the shock shaft spins when your trying to torque it down. Ive never "torque" a top mount, i usually just use the air gun to get it almost all the way down, use the ALLEN key to keep the shaft from spinning and using a wrench to tighten it.

Supermassive · 08-31-2012, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by *KID*

I wonder how you all torque down that top mount while the shock shaft spins when your trying to torque it down. Ive never "torque" a top mount, i usually just use the air gun to get it almost all the way down, use the ALLEN key to keep the shaft from spinning and using a wrench to tighten it.

Thats the beauty of impact tools...not saying its perfect but, you dont have to worry about that shaft spinning the impact action actually works wonders for stuff like that...speaking of which you reminded me that i need to make sure i have a set of impact allen head bits for my Ohlins cartridges for my Aprilia RSV-4R!!! (When you bolt the cart onto the fork tube the whole cartridge spins unless you have an impact gun, or the over priced special Ohlins tool that keeps the cart from spinning in the tube.

Dave-ROR · 08-31-2012, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Supermassive

Thats the beauty of impact tools...not saying its perfect but, you dont have to worry about that shaft spinning the impact action actually works wonders for stuff like that...speaking of which you reminded me that i need to make sure i have a set of impact allen head bits for my Ohlins cartridges for my Aprilia RSV-4R!!! (When you bolt the cart onto the fork tube the whole cartridge spins unless you have an impact gun, or the over priced special Ohlins tool that keeps the cart from spinning in the tube.

LOL Car damper shafts spin like mad with an impact. I've done it for years and have never had one NOT spin (tightening). KWs do for sure, I've used an impact on them multiple times also.

lam86 · 08-31-2012, 10:38 AM

I want a ROTFL smiley for the person who commented about disgust using impact on lugs..

daytrip00 · 08-31-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lam86

I want a ROTFL smiley for the person who commented about disgust using impact on lugs..

I stopped going to a mechanic because he kept using an impact on the lugs. He deformed a few on my mom's car and they were on so tight (probably around 150 ft-lbs) that she and my sister were totally unable to get the tire off to put the spare on using the tire iron. I've also seen my wheel bolts (F##@@ europeans) stripped using an impact wrench.

It's just sloppy work. If a mechanic can't be bothered to take the extra five minutes to do it correctly, then i don't want to know what other corners he's cutting. And if you've followed vivid (and by extension, agency power) you'd know there are a ton of corners being cut.

Ironsquid · 08-31-2012, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by civicdrivr

Thats makes me cringe.

I also hate when people use impacts on lug nuts.

I dont mind this as much, it's when they zip on the lugs without hand turning them on first to ensure they won't strip.

phattyduck · 09-06-2012, 02:20 PM

Maybe the video didn't show the part where he did the final tightening with a hand ratchet or torque wrench? If you watch the video again, you can see the gun isn't applying much torque on assembly (light movement of the hand).

That's what the mechanic friends I have do: Disassemble with impact, assemble with low impact, tighten by hand. (unless 19mm+, then its full-on impact...)

I often don't use an impact, but that's 'cause I have neighbors and work on my cars at night.

-Charlie

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xwd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 DGM Subaru BRZ (Subie #9) Location: ATL, US Posts: 2,667 Thanks: 123 Thanked 861 Times in 552 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s)	The reality of it is shops are going to use impact guns to torque down bolts, especially large ones. I took the suspension on and off my WRX for years using the same bolts and always used an impact gun, you generally get a feel for where the torque needs to be. If you took your car to a dealer and they had to replace a strut, they are going to impact the bolts. They aren't going to take the time to look at torque specs and bring out a wrench to actually measure the torque.

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lam86 ano... Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 87 AE86 Location: OH Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	I want a ROTFL smiley for the person who commented about disgust using impact on lugs..

09-06-2012, 02:20 PM	#54
phattyduck Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: '03 WRX Wagon, '89 Camry Alltrac Location: Pasadena Posts: 49 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Maybe the video didn't show the part where he did the final tightening with a hand ratchet or torque wrench? If you watch the video again, you can see the gun isn't applying much torque on assembly (light movement of the hand). That's what the mechanic friends I have do: Disassemble with impact, assemble with low impact, tighten by hand. (unless 19mm+, then its full-on impact...) I often don't use an impact, but that's 'cause I have neighbors and work on my cars at night. -Charlie

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