FR-S vs Genesis Coupe vs Lotus Elise Review on the PCH (Everydaydriver) - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

LS13 · 08-29-2012, 03:42 PM

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Big Sur PCH Review

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Pacific Coast Highway is a great road most people will experience in a bad car. So the guys took the Scion FRS on a roadtrip and brought along a Hyundai Genesis Coupe and Lotus Elise for comparison.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzTTx__QRcg"]FRS (GT86, BRZ) vs Genesis Coupe vs Lotus Elise - Pacific Coast Highway Road Trip Review - YouTube[/ame]

karbon · 08-29-2012, 04:45 PM

That was an enjoyable 20 some odd minutes. I was considering all three of these before settling on the BRZ. This confirms my decision

whateatsrabbits · 08-29-2012, 11:14 PM

That was a great review. These guys should have been on top gear USA.

FRSfan111 · 08-30-2012, 03:36 AM

Liked the video. But I new the gen wouldn't keep up. I didn't even like the v6 myself.

quik1987 · 08-30-2012, 03:45 AM

Todd said FR-S/BRZ > S2000, RX-8, MX-5, Genesis Coupe all in the same review

midenginebias · 08-30-2012, 03:50 AM

Top Gear needs to do this review, on that road, with those cars.

ngabdala · 08-30-2012, 10:32 AM

I love their reviews. I've been waiting on a new one and here it is. With 2 of my favorite cars. Elise, BRZ/FR-S/GT86

Synack · 08-30-2012, 11:24 AM

So glad I didn't get a Gen Coupe, I was sort of looking at the 3.8 Tracks in the beginning.

m.box.design · 08-30-2012, 12:51 PM

"It's like you went out looking for the perfect supermodel to date; and along the way, you found this amazing woman. She's beautiful, she's good to you, she makes you a better person.. and she's not a supermodel. Do you care now?"

i like that

Dadhawk · 08-30-2012, 01:27 PM

Great review and great road.

Honestly though every conclusion in this that could have come to by walking up to all three cars in a random parking lot and looking at them with their doors locked. Just seems obvious to me.

Liquidsnake · 08-30-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Synack

So glad I didn't get a Gen Coupe, I was sort of looking at the 3.8 Tracks in the beginning.

Let me tell you something about Korean cars.

All their parts are shit. For example in a Mercedes axel you will find it to be one or two solid pieces. In Korean cars, it will be 10-15 pieces welded together. Complete garbage.

Just what I have heard from an insider with knowledge.

I also looked at the Gen coupe. I just couldn't bring myself to get one.

I hope I don't sound like a jerk, but I would rather drive a Scion brand than a Huyndai. I just can't do it.

pastuch · 08-30-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Liquidsnake

Let me tell you something about Korean cars.

All their parts are shit. For example in a Mercedes axel you will find it to be one or two solid pieces. In Korean cars, it will be 10-15 pieces welded together. Complete garbage.

Just what I have heard from an insider with knowledge.

I also looked at the Gen coupe. I just couldn't bring myself to get one.

I hope I don't sound like a jerk, but I would rather drive a Scion brand than a Huyndai. I just can't do it.

Everything you said is either inaccurate or incorrect.

From 2003 to 2007 Mercedes were some of the least reliable cars you could possibly buy. Consumer reports and other automobile statistic groups had almost universal criticism of most of their cars. Essentially, they were built for 3 year lease agreements.

Since 2000, Hyundai has steadily improved in every automotive quality statistic that can be measured. Currently the Genesis Sedan has the highest customer satisfaction rating of a "luxury" car on consumer reports. The Mercedes GL managed to make the "worst of the worst" list this year.

Used cars to avoid from 2002 to 2011 according to CM:

Hyundai: Accent ’02; Elantra ’02; Entourage ’07-08; Santa Fe (4-cyl.) ’11; Santa Fe (V6) ’10-11; Sonata (4-cyl.) ’05; Veracruz ’08

Mercedes-Benz: C-Class (AWD) ’11; E-Class (AWD) ’09-10; E-Class (RWD) ’06; GL-Class ’07-09, ’11; M-Class (V6) ’02, ’06-07, ’09; R-Class ’06; S-Class ’04, ’06-07, ’09; SL ’05

New car predicted reliability for 2012
This graph shows how the makes rank based on their average predicted reliability scores. The score is the overall reliability calculated as a percentage better or worse than the average of all cars. The bar shows the range of scores between a make's worst and best models. The numeric score shown is the average for that make. To be included, a brand must have sufficient data for at least two models.

pastuch · 08-30-2012, 03:24 PM

Interesting note.... the worst car from nearly every manufacturer is an SUV. The Porsche Cayenne is a flaming piece of shi...

anteater86 · 08-30-2012, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by indesign

"It's like you went out looking for the perfect supermodel to date; and along the way, you found this amazing woman. She's beautiful, she's good to you, she makes you a better person.. and she's not a supermodel. Do you care now?"

i like that

I was going to quote this but you beat me to it!

What a great analogy!!!

08-30-2012, 03:36 AM	#4
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08-30-2012, 03:50 AM	#6
midenginebias Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 2001 Mr2 Spyder Location: OC Posts: 127 Thanks: 10 Thanked 20 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Top Gear needs to do this review, on that road, with those cars. __________________ Member of Heya Project for Fr-S/BrZ. Tire choice, Dash, Options list, Engine, Chassis, Suggestions; My fault Owned N/A '93 Mr2, N/A '91 Mr2, '98 Corolla, Mazdaspeed Mx-5, '07 Legacy Wagon, E90 328i well maintained and lit up on fire while driving on the freeway in traffic.

08-30-2012, 10:32 AM	#7
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08-30-2012, 11:24 AM	#8
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08-30-2012, 01:27 PM	#10
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08-29-2012, 04:45 PM	#2
karbon Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: DGM BRZ Location: United States Posts: 85 Thanks: 59 Thanked 17 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	That was an enjoyable 20 some odd minutes. I was considering all three of these before settling on the BRZ. This confirms my decision

08-30-2012, 03:45 AM	#5
quik1987 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: Bugatti Veyron Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,338 Thanks: 141 Thanked 569 Times in 256 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Todd said FR-S/BRZ > S2000, RX-8, MX-5, Genesis Coupe all in the same review

08-30-2012, 12:51 PM	#9
m.box.design Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 2013 Whiteout FRS Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 3,081 Thanks: 331 Thanked 1,662 Times in 933 Posts Mentioned: 107 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	"It's like you went out looking for the perfect supermodel to date; and along the way, you found this amazing woman. She's beautiful, she's good to you, she makes you a better person.. and she's not a supermodel. Do you care now?" i like that

08-30-2012, 03:24 PM	#13
pastuch Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: Ottawa Ontario Posts: 478 Thanks: 15 Thanked 36 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Interesting note.... the worst car from nearly every manufacturer is an SUV. The Porsche Cayenne is a flaming piece of shi... Last edited by pastuch; 08-30-2012 at 03:35 PM.

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