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What's the point of having cut cost Supra? I don't want them to make ANY Supra if they just gonna used same platform as current line up... & that include FR-S chassis. |
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Its not uncommon for Toyota and Lexus cars to share chassis. The MK4 Toyota Supra had a very similar chassis to the Lexus SC300. Whats the point? A decent MSRP so it has good sales and doesn't end up being killed off like the MK4 Supra. |
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Ok your totally rambling on about something else now. However, I'm glad you brought up this point. The Celica lasted for 7 generation, 4 for the Supra and 3 for the MR2. All the big names will dropped because of poor sales. Like I was trying to say before, a new flagship sports car from Toyota that may or may not wear the Supra nameplate has to perform well and be priced competitively.
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New Toyota flagship sports car is LFA. LFA priced around $380k, I wouldn't say they're in "price competitive". 86? I wouldn't fully count that as "price competitive" either. When Toyota comes to Sports car (most of the time), they don't care about the price competitive. |
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Lexus flagship doesn't equal Toyota flagship, totally different market. I think they priced the FR-S just right. As you know it doesn't have many direct competitors but its only about $800 more than a MX-5 Miata, $3k Less than a Civic Si HFP. Just because you don't care about pricing does mean that rest of us buyers don't care either. |
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Yes, 86 is in good price with competitors... but if you look at only the numbers, it's not the greatest bang for a buck around that price. I never stated, I don't care about pricing. I'm saying, 500hp w $60k isn't happening. No way, not even close. Current IS-F is over $60k w 415hp. Just say, they used modded 2UZ w twin turbo pushing over 500hp, put into "concept coupe" chassis from IS, it'll surely go over $85k (easy). Now, do you want to pay $85k IS coupe? For me, not really. IF I gonna spent $85k, it better be worth every penny as 86 is. 86 has all new chassis design, layout, engine, EVERYTHING... but next Supra can't? There's a problem with that picture. Again, I'm not hating your idea... but it's not realistic |
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I think you misread what I intended to say. My 1st post, all I said was that "it would be nice." My 2nd post about cutting cost. It was meant as Toyota would save money in general by sharing chassis. I wasn't trying to say that by sharing IS/GS chassis the new project would than = $60k price range. And no, not the 2UR-GSE. I was talking about the next IS-F. Which is rumored to go V-6 turbo. Off topic but.. I thought the 86/BRZ was based on a modified shorten Impreza chassis? Last edited by vh_supra26; 08-28-2012 at 01:31 PM. |
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Ok ichitaka05, let me ask you now. Whats your idea on a new Supra/Toyota flagship? I want to hear your input.
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Beginning, it was... but they decided to go w all new chassis layout. & add one extra off topic, I didn't know next IS-F is turbo V6. Thanks for the info Quote:
IMO, Supra & Toyota flagship are different. My ideal new Supra... prob like this: Chassis: Coupe Engine: 3.8L V8 Twin Turbo Power: <500hp/380tq Trans: 7sp MT or 7sp AMT (like Zeroshift) Wheelbase: 2700mm~2800mm Height: 1200mm~1280mm Width: 1840mm~1970mm Length: 4510mm~4600mm Curb Weight: 1460kg~1575kg Price: Only Toyoda knows lol |
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So far its just a rumor. But here are a few articles. Quote:
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That will be the FRS convertible, the MIATA cost more than the FR-S already, downsizing and down pricing wouldn't be the right move. Further more the next MX-5 is rumored to weigh only 2200 lbs and come with 200 hp. this is a big challenge to the FRS
This is a great article and I really enjoyed it. The idea of a new Supra is amazing
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"Of course," notes Sasaki-san, "rear-engined, rear-driven cars - and even mid-ship designs - are OK. But if you want to make an enjoyable sports car, it should be front-engined, rear-drive.
Could anyone please elaborate on what he means by this? |
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