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Jordo! · 08-26-2012, 08:33 PM

I just hope they price it closer to compete with the next gen Z rather than the GT-R.

Deciding between a new Supra and a new Z sounds like a heavenly dilemma.

BRAWL · 08-26-2012, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

I just hope they price it closer to compete with the next gen Z rather than the GT-R.

Deciding between a new Supra and a new Z sounds like a heavenly dilemma.

I agree. It has to be a direct competitor with the next gen Z and aerotop would not go amiss either

mike2100 · 08-27-2012, 11:24 AM

I see Scion as more of an exciting brand than entry level or kids brand now that the FR-S is here. I would expect the Supra to be labeled a Scion.

Scion Supra doesn't quite roll off the tongue though. Maybe it won't be called Supra here?

vh_supra26 · 08-27-2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by reeves

A "new" Supra is a nice thought.. but the price tag & insurance costs would kill its sales.. kinda like the last Supra.

That doesn't seem to be an issue with the GT-R.

RedLeader · 08-27-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26

That doesn't seem to be an issue with the GT-R.

Because there's a lot of those driving around.

Sent from...somewhere?

daiheadjai · 08-27-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by switchlanez

The engineers already insist that the next "Supra" will be RWD, petrol-powered, and have some form of driver-assist. Considering the context of their conversation, what is the one assist found in sports cars that the FR-S lacks? Possibly some form of dual-clutch automated manual transmission or something similar. Almost all modern serious sports cars (IS-F, LFA, GT-R, Porsches, supercars) have it as the only option.

The engineers also noted the "path" of this future sports car will differ from that of the GT86. The 86's focus is fun-to-drive and a manual transmission brings that out. This upper tier model has to be thrilling to drive with serious performance numbers to "wow" the world. To achieve great numbers, its transmission can't be manual.

Does the IS-F use automated manual? I thought it was a torque converter?

vh_supra26 · 08-27-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kestrel

Because there's a lot of those driving around.

Sent from...somewhere?

Well whose to say that there won't be alot of "new" Supras driving.

switchlanez · 08-27-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by daiheadjai

Does the IS-F use automated manual? I thought it was a torque converter?

Like I originally stated, it uses "something similar" even if with torque converter.

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Originally Posted by wikipedia

The Lexus IS F features an 8-speed Sport Direct Shift (SPDS) automatic transmission with sequential shift which can lock-up the torque converter from 2nd through 8th gears (see also: Lexus IS transmission specifications). The SPDS is derived from the unit introduced in the 2007 Lexus LS, which was the first vehicle to carry an 8-speed transmission.[37] The SPDS allows for shifts to occur in 0.1 s (100 ms),[38] compared to 0.05 s (50 ms) of F1 race cars.[39] The wheel-mounted paddle shifters allow for gear shifting while steering, and a manual mode can be selected for added control. The 8-speed transmission also improves fuel economy,[40] with lower overall consumption than BMW, Mercedes, and Audi rivals,[38][40] and avoidance of the U.S. Gas Guzzler Tax.[41]

ABQautoxer · 08-27-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26

What about this little thing?

I just threw up in my mouth a little. They can do better. It can't just be a fun car, it has to not look like crap, we have other cars for that.

rcm47 · 08-27-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kestrel

Because there's a lot of those driving around.

Sent from...somewhere?

I see a lot in the bay area. Daily drivers to some people.

vh_supra26 · 08-27-2012, 05:40 PM

It would be great if Toyota could offer a 500hp Supra within the $60k price tag range.

ichitaka05 · 08-27-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26

It would be great if Toyota could offer a 500hp Supra within the $60k price tag range.

Sadly, prob won't happen. IF they did offer 500hp Supra, it'll be near $100k

Opposed · 08-27-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kestrel

Because there's a lot of those driving around.

Sent from...somewhere?

I see quite a few of them up here in MN...especially for an 80k car.

vh_supra26 · 08-28-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Sadly, prob won't happen. IF they did offer 500hp Supra, it'll be near $100k

Well they could cut cost by underpinning a new Supra on the next IS-F or the rumored GS-F.

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