Low Idle/Cam gear - Anyone request to inspect your old/replaced parts? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ahausheer · 08-24-2012, 02:19 AM

In California when your car needs replacement parts you can request your old parts back and I believe the mechanic must provide them by law.

Has anyone who has had their cam gear, timing chain, or other parts replaced inspected the old parts? The reason I ask is, I wonder if a batch of cam gears was not hardened correctly or perhaps some other premature wear issue occurred leading to unstable cam positions.

It would be interesting to inspect the parts and see if anything obvious stands out.

soconfoozed · 08-24-2012, 02:22 AM

That would be cute. I could do some material characterization experiments and maybe take some high magnification photographs. I wonder how far I can get trying to recover my old parts.

ahausheer · 08-24-2012, 02:34 AM

I think you misunderstand. There is an example I have read about on a GTI forum where (I believe it was a cam sprocket), was not hardened correctly. The owner had a picture of the defective part and it was abundantly clear that the teeth were badly worn when compared to an unworn part. The dealer illegally disposed of the part preventing the owner from doing a chemical analysis proving there was a manufacturing issue and costing VW a ton of money. I am surprised you are mocking me. My curiosity and enjoyment of getting my hands on dirty car parts would cause me to at least want to take a look at the old parts.

soconfoozed · 08-24-2012, 02:54 AM

...mocking you?

Davis · 08-24-2012, 03:02 AM

You wouldn't be able to. The dealer has to send the parts back to Toyota for them to inspect it since it is a warranty job, or else the dealer will get back flagged for the items and the job.

Guff · 08-24-2012, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soconfoozed

...mocking you?

I believe your word choice of cute was somewhat unsettling. Perhaps you meant cool.

I thought Toyota/Subaru were taking in these parts and investigating themselves? I feel they would have more resources than us in determining problems...

alrashwa · 08-24-2012, 03:32 AM

here

Yruyur was able to take a look at his parts, including the cam gear. Not sure if it's something visible to the layman. Might even be something not outwardly visible at all. Not sure.

White64Goat · 08-26-2012, 04:31 PM

Warranty parts are not returned to the customer. End.

08-24-2012, 02:19 AM	#1
ahausheer Re-member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Toyota camry Location: S. Cali Posts: 1,001 Thanks: 98 Thanked 292 Times in 152 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Low Idle/Cam gear - Anyone request to inspect your old/replaced parts? In California when your car needs replacement parts you can request your old parts back and I believe the mechanic must provide them by law. Has anyone who has had their cam gear, timing chain, or other parts replaced inspected the old parts? The reason I ask is, I wonder if a batch of cam gears was not hardened correctly or perhaps some other premature wear issue occurred leading to unstable cam positions. It would be interesting to inspect the parts and see if anything obvious stands out. __________________ Nothing decays like progress, and nothing preserves like neglect.

08-24-2012, 02:22 AM	#2
soconfoozed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited 6MT WR Blue Pearl Location: San Diego Posts: 147 Thanks: 27 Thanked 90 Times in 47 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That would be cute. I could do some material characterization experiments and maybe take some high magnification photographs. I wonder how far I can get trying to recover my old parts. __________________ 2013 BRZ Limited 6MT WR Blue Pearl

08-24-2012, 02:34 AM	#3
ahausheer Re-member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Toyota camry Location: S. Cali Posts: 1,001 Thanks: 98 Thanked 292 Times in 152 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think you misunderstand. There is an example I have read about on a GTI forum where (I believe it was a cam sprocket), was not hardened correctly. The owner had a picture of the defective part and it was abundantly clear that the teeth were badly worn when compared to an unworn part. The dealer illegally disposed of the part preventing the owner from doing a chemical analysis proving there was a manufacturing issue and costing VW a ton of money. I am surprised you are mocking me. My curiosity and enjoyment of getting my hands on dirty car parts would cause me to at least want to take a look at the old parts. __________________ Nothing decays like progress, and nothing preserves like neglect.

08-24-2012, 02:54 AM	#4
soconfoozed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited 6MT WR Blue Pearl Location: San Diego Posts: 147 Thanks: 27 Thanked 90 Times in 47 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	...mocking you? __________________ 2013 BRZ Limited 6MT WR Blue Pearl

08-24-2012, 03:02 AM	#5
Davis Radical Dreamer Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2003 Toyota MR2 Spyder Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 43 Thanks: 4 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You wouldn't be able to. The dealer has to send the parts back to Toyota for them to inspect it since it is a warranty job, or else the dealer will get back flagged for the items and the job. __________________ '03 ZW Spectra Blue, Because Racecar. '91 SW Black/Red, Sold. '85 AW Champagne, RIP.

08-24-2012, 03:32 AM	#7
alrashwa Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: '12 370Z Monterey Blue Location: Washington Posts: 230 Thanks: 120 Thanked 60 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	here Yruyur was able to take a look at his parts, including the cam gear. Not sure if it's something visible to the layman. Might even be something not outwardly visible at all. Not sure.

08-26-2012, 04:31 PM	#8
White64Goat Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ CBS LTD MT, 02 WRX Location: Fred. Co. Md. Posts: 2,351 Thanks: 65 Thanked 1,113 Times in 628 Posts Mentioned: 19 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Warranty parts are not returned to the customer. End.

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