..... vs. DC2 Integra Type R

[ill86]

Originally Posted by whtchocla7e

fatoni made it a habit to pop out of nowhere in all miata,z and now honda threads just to rag on the toybaru every chance he gets... hard to take him seriously at this point.

Forums are for stating one's opinion. I get that.
What I dislike are posts from people who claim fact when they spout opinion.

I've started to notice this "wonderful" trend on this board. Not sure why I'm surprised.

:happy0180: no worries.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by whtchocla7e

fatoni made it a habit to pop out of nowhere in all miata,z and now honda threads just to rag on the toybaru every chance he gets... hard to take him seriously at this point.

my favorite part is how you managed to post this statement in a thread that i dont even mention the frs

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by ill86

Do you honestly expect a reasonable answer at this point?

I know lots of tims and erics..

ill take that as a no. they have a show called called tim and eric awesome show, great job. i guess you were just using those terms sarcastically in an attempt to belittle me right before you make a post about how this forum is going down the drain

[ill86]

Actually i was being quite serious. Again, great job.

I have no reason to attempt to belittle you. You're doing a wonderful job.

Nor did I say the froum is going down the drain. If you're going to quote/reply to me please be accurate and efficient.

[ill86]

Relax... I'm busting your balls. This is a vs thread. I expected to read rubbish that's why I clicked the thread.

Originally Posted by fatoni

my favorite part is how you managed to post this statement in a thread that i dont even mention the frs

Sweet irony.

[Touge Monster]

Originally Posted by fatoni

to say that would mean you are saying that the front wheels wouldnt be any more overpowered on the downhill. my point was that going up hill, the extra weight over the front would be an advantage

Umm yeah sure might I remind you of alittle thing called gravity. The ITR is great and all but fwd is and always will be an econo box solution it's cheaper than an FR layout to produce that's the only reason it exists.

[Touge Monster]

I'm quite confused as to how an FF would have the advantage on a hill climb over an FR but maybe you could explain that to me as the laws of physics speak otherwise

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Touge Monster

Umm yeah sure might I remind you of alittle thing called gravity. The ITR is great and all but fwd is and always will be an econo box solution it's cheaper than an FR layout to produce that's the only reason it exists.

you talk about economy like its a bad thing. if you can get more for your money, thats good. especially when that more is speed.

Originally Posted by Touge Monster

I'm quite confused as to how an FF would have the advantage on a hill climb over an FR but maybe you could explain that to me as the laws of physics speak otherwise

im not sure that anybody who lives in america and refers to a canyon road as "the touge" is going to have a better grip on physics than i will.

if you think the universe is working against fwd why do you suppose that cars like the cobalt are going around tracks faster than rwd cars with more power?

[Touge Monster]

Originally Posted by fatoni

you talk about economy like its a bad thing. if you can get more for your money, thats good. especially when that more is speed.

im not sure that anybody who lives in america and refers to a canyon road as "the touge" is going to have a better grip on physics than i will.

if you think the universe is working against fwd why do you suppose that cars like the cobalt are going around tracks faster than rwd cars with more power?

About as much sense as an fwd fanboi on an FR-s forum lol... Hey dude like I said the ITR is a great car no doubt about that. As far as FF being a better drivetrain....have fun with that arguement.

[Touge Monster]

Originally Posted by fatoni

to say that would mean you are saying that the front wheels wouldnt be any more overpowered on the downhill. my point was that going up hill, the extra weight over the front would be an advantage

You completely discredit yourself by making idiotic posts like this on what particular univers does this make any sense. Let me guess FF is also the best drag set up because on launch the extra weight over the front wheels provides better traction that must be why all of the pro class cars are rwd. Go post some non-sense like this on team-integra and see how long you last lol. Or better yet try your luck in the town of springfield.

[JW89225]

I have to agree RWD is better than FWD, I mean that solely as my opinion/preference... but that does not take away from the ITR at all. Its a great car regardless of its layout and the fact that its one of the greatest drivers car in the world with its FWD econobox roots makes it all the more amazing. A testimony to what Honda can do when they have their work cut out for them.

I always wondered why Honda don't make more RWD, because every RWD that came from them is top notch. Personally, I never liked FWD until I really knew about the Type R line of cars. They really opened my eyes that this world have no absolutes, nothing is ever set in stones.

The GT-R is a perfect case... the dream recipe for sports car is a midship/lightweight/high power-to-weight... but the Nissan just shredded the rulebooks and threw it back at them

Be glad that people are bashing its FWD layout as a flaw... because you'll be hard pressed to find another

[2forme]

Sadly this war will not be won, for there are far more Honda fanbois than other fanbois. I think the ITR is a great car, but too many people make it seem like more than it really is.

[Touge Monster]

Awd is a completely different animal altogether and again the ITR is a great machine I would love to own another one if I wasn't so paraniod about some one stealing/vandalizing it. Yes fwd does have some advantages in a low grip situation rain/snow/mud etc it can be more stable than FR/MR. However climbing a hill or drag racing is not something ff excels at. For what it's worth I used to beat up on mr2s and silvias on the "canyon roads" in my ITR I was all about FF for years but once I switch drivetrains I was able to appreciate the extra control provided by FR and I never went back.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Touge Monster

About as much sense as an fwd fanboi on an FR-s forum lol... Hey dude like I said the ITR is a great car no doubt about that. As far as FF being a better drivetrain....have fun with that arguement.

Originally Posted by Touge Monster

You completely discredit yourself by making idiotic posts like this on what particular univers does this make any sense. Let me guess FF is also the best drag set up because on launch the extra weight over the front wheels provides better traction that must be why all of the pro class cars are rwd. Go post some non-sense like this on team-integra and see how long you last lol. Or better yet try your luck in the town of springfield.

im not a fwd fanboy. im just saying that the using going downhill as a disadvantage disappears when you go uphill. i dont know why you are bringing up drag racing. this kind of strawman argument isnt going to win you any battles. saying that the weight balance is why the ae86 is better than the itr doesnt go too far when you look at absolute weight instead of a normalized percentage. there is less weight over the fron of an itr than there is over the frs. is the frs worse than the corolla?

Originally Posted by 2forme

Sadly this war will not be won, for there are far more Honda fanbois than other fanbois. I think the ITR is a great car, but too many people make it seem like more than it really is.

have you ever owned an itr? that car is crazy