How to drive manual

[RAN94A]

Originally Posted by pr0j

he'd just say he was saving fuel. Cost him a pretty penny in brake pads though.

how exactly would the prescribed method use any more brakes than say in an auto...

[nix]

Clutch disc vs brake pads.

[86 gts]

My father is a mechanic and I worked in his workshop over the years
Auto cars use less gear brakeage so go through their brakes quicker
Auto transmissions also generally break down more and are more costly to fix
Lesson: Drive your manual like it is designed to be used (ie. gear down as you slow, gear up as you accelerate, rev match when you change gear & you won't damage your clutch, transmission or brakes).

[RAN94A]

Originally Posted by 86 gts

Auto transmissions also generally break down more and are more costly to fix

i'm interested to know the logic behind this??

as a whole an auto lasts what... 150k + before it starts having problems (possibly) depending on how its driven??
There's also been plenty of examples of auto's running for over 200K without problem.

Run the same time for a manual and you could reasonably expect 1-2 clutch changes from your average driver.

A reco'd gearbox is... 1-2 grand.. (assuming its not like DSG or completely screwed).

vs clutch/flywheel of similar price.... 1-2 times.


And thats assuming they know what they're doing... a manual is obviously far more susceptible to damage than an auto if someone inexperienced is driving it..

[nix]

Originally Posted by 86 gts

Drive your manual like it is designed to be used (ie. gear down as you slow, gear up as you accelerate, rev match when you change gear & you won't damage your clutch, transmission or brakes).

It's just entropy. Gearing down every time = more clutch engagements = more friction on clutch plate = more wear.

Avoiding as many shifts as possible could help the oem last a few more thousand km but I don't do it.

[86 gts]

Originally Posted by RAN94A

i'm interested to know the logic behind this??

as a whole an auto lasts what... 150k + before it starts having problems (possibly) depending on how its driven??
There's also been plenty of examples of auto's running for over 200K without problem.

Run the same time for a manual and you could reasonably expect 1-2 clutch changes from your average driver.

A reco'd gearbox is... 1-2 grand.. (assuming its not like DSG or completely screwed).

vs clutch/flywheel of similar price.... 1-2 times.


And thats assuming they know what they're doing... a manual is obviously far more susceptible to damage than an auto if someone inexperienced is driving it..

Not sure how you drive your vehicles, but I'm fairly hard on mine
I've had 3 manuals and got to 150 to 200 thousand kilometers, before I changed them over, & never needed a clutch change
From watching what came into my father's workshop, there was more transmission work on autos than manuals of equivalent vehicles

[RAN94A]

Originally Posted by 86 gts

From watching what came into my father's workshop, there was more transmission work on autos than manuals of equivalent vehicles

could have something to do with the fact the ratios of manuals to autos sold in australia is also like 20/80..

[86 gts]

Originally Posted by RAN94A

could have something to do with the fact the ratios of manuals to autos sold in australia is also like 20/80..

No, I accounted for prevalence of transmission types
Regardless, that's not my main point
If you're driving efficiently you gear down as you slow & rev match
Anyway, last time I try to make the point