2013 Subaru BRZ vs 2012 Honda Civic Si HFP - Page 5 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

SeattleJeremy · 08-16-2012, 08:17 PM

It's hard to claim the Civic SI HFP "Dominated" or "PWNED" the BRZ. It's only 0.1 second faster around the track.
Put the same tires on the BRZ, and retest.

MmmHamSandwich · 08-16-2012, 08:21 PM

Repost...

The only section of the track the Si had the advantage was the straightaway section, which given its extra power doesn't come as a surprise. The other two sections the FR-S was still faster even on mediocre tires. Plus most importantly the hosts freely admit the 86 is the better driver's car and more fun. Plus if you are talking FF cars you might as well throw in the Mazdaspeed which would eat the Si alive while being more practical to boot.

sandman126 · 08-16-2012, 08:22 PM

I do like hondas but a tenth of a second doesn't exactly equal DOMINATES, especially considering the upgraded suspension and tires on the civic. It is always nice to see comparison to other cars though to see how the twins are doing.

Kimsey47 · 08-16-2012, 08:22 PM

Maybe the original poster is Ricky Bobby? "If you're not first, you're last!"

RRnold · 08-16-2012, 08:33 PM

I don't know about DOMINATES but it did give the BRZ a nice run. Ironically, back in days, the AE86 used to walk the Integra Type R.

F3dzo · 08-16-2012, 08:33 PM

This troll doesn't deserve this much attention...

Turbowned · 08-16-2012, 08:38 PM

Re-post. You fail and so does the Civic. Please /yourself.

ZDan · 08-16-2012, 08:41 PM

Glad I actually watched it! On the same make model tires (Michelin Pilot SuperSports), BRZ will of course kick the living, um, daylights out of the Si HFP. But mainly, the last few seconds of the vid says it all.

FWD FTMFL...

fatoni · 08-16-2012, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chulooz

Im not making any analogies, tires are changed on 'unmodified' cars all the time.

It was a stupid decision to put economy tires on this car once it wears performance rubber all of its capabilities are accentuated and none are obstructed.

youve never seen a car drive without tires?

no i havent but even if they do, you can just as easily drive without a sway bar or backseats. can i change those and be "unmodified"?

fatoni · 08-16-2012, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold

I don't know about DOMINATES but it did give the BRZ a nice run. Ironically, back in days, the AE86 used to walk the Integra Type R.

uhh...what?

baldolera · 08-16-2012, 09:08 PM

BUT which would you rather drive, which is more fun? I would pick the BRZ. Saying the Civic dominated the BRZ is a huge exaggeration. Put comparable tires on the BRZ and it will shave at least a second off its lap time. The drivers even said so in this test. To prove it Road and Track did a test with an FR-S and it took off 2 seconds on its lap time with sticky summer rubber.

RRnold · 08-16-2012, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatoni

uhh...what?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTeD9_Fa0iQ"]AE86 vs DC2 - YouTube[/ame]

fatoni · 08-16-2012, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold

okay well thats hot version so i dont really take anything they say seriously. also, that integra has a b16a and the corolla has a 20v. im sure when you allow people to swap engines up or down you can make whoever win that you want

RRnold · 08-16-2012, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatoni

okay well thats hot version so i dont really take anything they say seriously. also, that integra has a b16a and the corolla has a 20v. im sure when you allow people to swap engines up or down you can make whoever win that you want

Ok, how about a drag race...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ6RcTdTGYQ"]SSPA ken Shaw AE86 vs Red Integra DC2 - YouTube[/ame]

08-16-2012, 08:22 PM	#60
Kimsey47 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 2016 STI DGM Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 1,875 Thanks: 1,189 Thanked 1,460 Times in 662 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s)	Maybe the original poster is Ricky Bobby? "If you're not first, you're last!" __________________ Subaru STI :

08-16-2012, 08:33 PM	#61
RRnold 2 wheel member Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: JZA80, 997.1, Taco Location: SoCal->NorCal Posts: 4,330 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 938 Times in 480 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s)	I don't know about DOMINATES but it did give the BRZ a nice run. Ironically, back in days, the AE86 used to walk the Integra Type R. __________________

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08-16-2012, 08:17 PM	#57
SeattleJeremy Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Vibe Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 86 Thanks: 70 Thanked 26 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	It's hard to claim the Civic SI HFP "Dominated" or "PWNED" the BRZ. It's only 0.1 second faster around the track. Put the same tires on the BRZ, and retest.

08-16-2012, 08:21 PM	#58
MmmHamSandwich You know you want it. Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: '13 FR-S Location: RVA Posts: 705 Thanks: 160 Thanked 327 Times in 154 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s)	Repost... The only section of the track the Si had the advantage was the straightaway section, which given its extra power doesn't come as a surprise. The other two sections the FR-S was still faster even on mediocre tires. Plus most importantly the hosts freely admit the 86 is the better driver's car and more fun. Plus if you are talking FF cars you might as well throw in the Mazdaspeed which would eat the Si alive while being more practical to boot.

08-16-2012, 08:22 PM	#59
sandman126 Slide Ways Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ, 85 VW Golf Location: Minot, ND Posts: 93 Thanks: 163 Thanked 15 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	I do like hondas but a tenth of a second doesn't exactly equal DOMINATES, especially considering the upgraded suspension and tires on the civic. It is always nice to see comparison to other cars though to see how the twins are doing.

08-16-2012, 08:41 PM	#64
ZDan Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: '23 BRZ Location: Providence, RI Posts: 4,672 Thanks: 1,439 Thanked 4,012 Times in 2,098 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s)	Glad I actually watched it! On the same make model tires (Michelin Pilot SuperSports), BRZ will of course kick the living, um, daylights out of the Si HFP. But mainly, the last few seconds of the vid says it all. FWD FTMFL...

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