Another One Bites the Dust

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by Yruyur

Well that fixed the chirping problem

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Yes but now it croaked!

[frsinpa]

Originally Posted by Kimsey47

I just hope my insurance doesn't equate that the BRZ and FRS are the same car...

wow... lol

Originally Posted by chulooz

Great points, hence my call on more frs being smashed! But it is not that the six starts indicate maturity (much more mature line up of cars, yet used wrx attracting the worst kind of ricers) but that Scion is so closely associated with *hold your breath* immaturity *gasp* that makes me lose faith in this twins longevity.

wow... lol x2

Originally Posted by Trikle

I think its funny and entertaining reading these forums there are a handful of FRS owners that, insinuate that BRZ owners look down on them for whatever reason. Yet ive never seen a post or thread on the forums that said anything similar.

Same Team jerks!

i have nothing against BRZ owners, but when folks come to our forum and make backhanded remarks (as detailed above) - seems to me like its a pretty sad attempt at stirring up pointless drama. ya dig?

[dori.]

Originally Posted by frsinpa

i have nothing against BRZ owners, but when folks come to our forum and make backhanded remarks (as detailed above) - seems to me like its a pretty sad attempt at stirring up pointless drama. ya dig?

just another case of red vs blue

[Kimsey47]

Originally Posted by frsinpa

i have nothing against BRZ owners, but when folks come to our forum and make backhanded remarks (as detailed above) - seems to me like its a pretty sad attempt at stirring up pointless drama. ya dig?

I wasn't trying to stir drama... I just don't want to pay higher insurance rates since the cars seem to be dropping like flies (BRZ is FRS, thus higher insurance rates for both if the companies figure that out)!

[DantKR]

Originally Posted by frsinpa

i have nothing against BRZ owners, but when folks come to our forum and make backhanded remarks (as detailed above) - seems to me like its a pretty sad attempt at stirring up pointless drama. ya dig?

It's just idiots that don't realize that they are the exact same fucking car just with a different badge. They are made side by side in the same factory.

Originally Posted by Kimsey47

I wasn't trying to stir drama... I just don't want to pay higher insurance rates since the cars seem to be dropping like flies (BRZ is FRS, thus higher insurance rates for both if the companies figure that out)!

If you're a safe driver you'll pay what you're going to pay for your area. Nothing more nothing less. I pay something around $50/mo for full coverage on my BRZ.

[Pscylo]

I'll buy your tail lights =p

[robo_robb]

I'm not sure how insurance rates are determined when taking accident statistics into account, but it would make sense to me that the insurance companies would look at the number of accidents as a percent of the whole,

e.g., if 5/100 FR-S's crashed, vs, 1/20 BRZ's crashed (just an example), both models have a 5% crash rate, even though there are more FR-S's crashed.

To expound on my point: The Toyota Camry has astronomical crash rates compared to our FT86's, but that's because there are so many out there. Insurance rates remain low because the ratio of accidents to total number of Camrys is so low.

To me, it seems like our two babies are crashing at rates proportional to their totals.

[Turbowned]

Have any BRZ crashes been reported yet? I've only seen FR-S's so far. I'm sure it's bound to happen. I feel like the FR-S's twitchier suspension is going to lead to a few more crashes than it's more neutral cousin.

[Kimsey47]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

Have any BRZ crashes been reported yet? I've only seen FR-S's so far. I'm sure it's bound to happen. I feel like the FR-S's twitchier suspension is going to lead to a few more crashes than it's more neutral cousin.

There were some pics posted on this thread earlier... Either way its stories like this on the "Internets" that are embarassing to me as a BRZ/FRS owner: http://jalopnik.com/5935304/dealersh...h-of-ownership

[EsoBOFH]

Yikes... what in the heck are these people doing... in my experience you'd have to be trying pretty hard to smash these cars up.. I don't honestly understand how people are losing control of this car, unless it's just plain stupidity or the other vehicles fault. It corrects so easily, and takes a lot to upset the chassis - honestly this baffles me.

[arkybrz]

Moral of the story: Traction and Stability control are your friend, keep them engaged on public roads and help everyone else maintain their insurance premiums. I'm actually pretty excited to see how insurance premiums change once the insurance companies know more about these cars.

PS As a BRZ owner, I do personally look down upon every FRS I come across. Makes me feel good knowing I can spend $3k more for the same car, because I'm just that rich. /sarcasm

[tripjammer]

I have yet to see a BRZ on the roads, and I live in a big ass city...

[neutral]

Originally Posted by EsoBOFH

Yikes... what in the heck are these people doing... in my experience you'd have to be trying pretty hard to smash these cars up.. I don't honestly understand how people are losing control of this car, unless it's just plain stupidity or the other vehicles fault. It corrects so easily, and takes a lot to upset the chassis - honestly this baffles me.

What are these people doing? I'm assuming the same thing I did. Watched a bunch of youtube videos and the commercials for the car, came from FWD, heard how "easy" this thing is to drift, tried to drift a corner or something, got freaked out by the oversteer, froze, and hit something. It corrects easily if you know how to correct it. Otherwise it's a damn surprise how quickly that back end spins around when you're REALLY trying to make it "drift".

Originally Posted by tripjammer

I have yet to see a BRZ on the roads, and I live in a big ass city...

I've seen one silver BRZ so far on 75 in Ohio. He tried to race my buddy's integra lol. Needless to say, we didn't even give him the time of day.

[neutral]

Originally Posted by Kimsey47

There were some pics posted on this thread earlier... Either way its stories like this on the "Internets" that are embarassing to me as a BRZ/FRS owner: http://jalopnik.com/5935304/dealersh...h-of-ownership

And now you see why I publicly apologized when I wrecked mine.