Chris Harris Drive: GT86 / FR-S vs 370z vs Cayman S

[Deslock]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

I honestly love a car where you don't have to push it to 10/10ths for it to be fun because in the real world we shouldn't be doing that anyways. I think what he said about the Z being great at 8/10ths on the street is actually a great thing for a daily driver but he never said how the 86 feels under 10/10ths.

At 2:52 he said the 86 is "enjoyable all the way up that scale."

If I could get a used Cayman S for anywhere near the price of a new BRZ or 86 there would be no contest. Here is Australia, a USED cayman S is still at lease twice the price of a new BRZ .

[vtmike]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

I honestly love a car where you don't have to push it to 10/10ths for it to be fun because in the real world we shouldn't be doing that anyways. I think what he said about the Z being great at 8/10ths on the street is actually a great thing for a daily driver but he never said how the 86 feels under 10/10ths.

I think you miss the point. He said the z is fine until 8/10 but shows its flaws when pushed past that point. Not a good trait to have. Where the gt86 did not exhibit these flaws such as vague transmission and motor feeling like it's going to fall apart when approaching its limits.

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[OldSkool86]

I like honest reviews. Good stuff.

[rikdrt1]

.... I need a cigarette now....
whew !

[Asterisked Accolade]

Man, when i logged into YouTube today, this video was on my feed. I saw GT86, 370Z, and Cayman and was like, "Nice." Then i saw, "Chris Harris," and said out loud, "Oh hell yes!"

[Smokinbuffalo]

I need rear seats, so that rules out the Nissan and Porsche for me. So I was looking at the Genesis, Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger. If you think the Nissan is a lard ass, try a Camaro. The muscle cars in general feel huge, and won't fit in my garage unless I park at angle.
The 86 is the practical sports car.

[kanundrum]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUhLXvxlQR4&feature=g-u-u"]Toyota GT86 / Scion FR-S v Nissan 370Z v Used Porsche Cayman S - CHRIS HARRIS ON CARS - YouTube[/ame]

Not sure why my other post got deleted but here you go

[fatoni]

probably because that video is in every other thread on the boards. i think he speaks well but i feel like the guy has an opinion and then reviews cars heavily influenced by his prejudice. i just find it strange how someone who hates the miata and even says it isnt a sports car an it lacks power and then praises an frs because sports cars dont need power

[PMok]

Originally Posted by Paragon

If I could get a used Cayman S for anywhere near the price of a new BRZ or 86 there would be no contest. Here is Australia, a USED cayman S is still at lease twice the price of a new BRZ .

I definitely thought long and hard about both a used 370Z and a used Cayman given that the price point here was close enough to a new BRZ (a bit under $30K). And as Chris Harris pointed out you'd be getting so much more car with the Cayman. But as he also pointed out, by buying a used Porsche you're also getting into a lot of expensive maintenance. I've always been turned off by the expensive stories and unreliability I've heard and seen other owners of European cars have to deal with. Case in point, my coworker today couldn't start his BMW 3-series -- probably starter gone bad. That car can't be more than 6 years old. My 6 year old Lexus, and my 12 year old MR2 both start just fine. I opted for the Subaru.

p.s. wish the Toyobaru sounded more like the Cayman did though. that flat6 sounds beautiful.

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by Paragon

If I could get a used Cayman S for anywhere near the price of a new BRZ or 86 there would be no contest. Here is Australia, a USED cayman S is still at lease twice the price of a new BRZ .

I disagree:
Carpoint Au

$56,500 excluding on road

[kanundrum]

This just came out today and it is a different one from the one in February

[Tanuki]

^says the guy with a miata. Ironic right?

[rice_classic]

Yup. $40k Here (but only 22k miles)
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/3207276593.html