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Old 08-13-2012, 01:59 AM   #57
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:04 AM   #58
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Playing Forza with all the assists turned off helps you learn too
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:20 AM   #59
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I think this should be mandatory for anyone that comes from FWD to RWD for the first time.

Do's:
1. Watch Tokyo Drift
2. Watch Tokyo Drift again
3. Watch Tokyo Drift once more

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1. Most importantly, don't do what they do in Tokyo Drift!

And if you want to be the next DK take it to the track.
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:44 AM   #60
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you young folk with your fancky city talkin bout tc, esp, tes, abs, P.S, abc, gps, tmc, sport +.

do people not go go-karting anymore? its the safest/fun/cheap way to slide the back out, crash and not worry,(maybe slight whiplash from seat belt)
i use to go gokarting with friends when i was 13 and my first car (rwd) at 16 felt so normal and easy to drive, i will deff take my kids karting,

unfortunatly you have to spin out a few times before you know the limits of a car,
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Old 08-13-2012, 04:53 AM   #61
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Is RWD that scary? I find FWDs far scarier, the car stops steering when you lose traction.

In a RWD if you get in a slide Just keep your front tyres pointing where you want to go relative to the road regardless of where the rest of the car is pointed. If you do that it will only spin if you're to slow to steer or if you run out of lock.
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:03 AM   #62
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Is RWD that scary?
Not really...especially with only 151lb/ft of torque. And contrary to what you'll read here, leaving the traction control on won't kill you.
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:22 AM   #63
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Not really...especially with only 151lb/ft of torque. And contrary to what you'll read here, leaving the traction control on won't kill you.
Haha that's what I thought. But I've grown up with RWD so I thought maybe I was ignorant or something. I've had two FWD work cars and hated them. I also had a locked diff in my old RWD celica for a while. Read any forum and they'll tell you car with a locked diff clearly means you have a death wish. I never had a problem with it. Daily drove it for a year rain, hail and shine and I could count on one hand the number of times it went sideways without me wanting it to and those 3 times were all at sub 30km/h.
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Is RWD that scary? I find FWDs far scarier, the car stops steering when you lose traction.

In a RWD if you get in a slide Just keep your front tyres pointing where you want to go relative to the road regardless of where the rest of the car is pointed. If you do that it will only spin if you're to slow to steer or if you run out of lock.
Agreed. I've lost traction in my old tC, and once I did, there was absolutely nothing I could do. It was going off the road, that was that. Luckily there was nothing for me to hit, just an empty field.
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The FR-S isn't that prone to oversteer, especially for a RWD car.

Thinking you need to "outdrive" the computer and turning off VSC on public roads will get you into trouble. In fact if you're a novice driver, VSC will make you post better laps on a track.

Also, drifting is what happens when you can't control a car properly around a track (or something normal if you're a fan of dirt oval, rally, or ice racing), so try not to drift the car. It makes you look like an amateur and destroys your tires even faster.
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Is RWD that scary? I find FWDs far scarier, the car stops steering when you lose traction.

In a RWD if you get in a slide Just keep your front tyres pointing where you want to go relative to the road regardless of where the rest of the car is pointed. If you do that it will only spin if you're to slow to steer or if you run out of lock.
In my case I prefer to go in one direction while pointing the tires in the other while spinning the back wheels and creating a lot of smoke.
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The FR-S isn't that prone to oversteer, especially for a RWD car.

Thinking you need to "outdrive" the computer and turning off VSC on public roads will get you into trouble. In fact if you're a novice driver, VSC will make you post better laps on a track.

Also, drifting is what happens when you can't control a car properly around a track (or something normal if you're a fan of dirt oval, rally, or ice racing), so try not to drift the car. It makes you look like an amateur and destroys your tires even faster.
But it is undeniably fun =)

Track/AutoX is definitely not the place to lose traction but a wide open country road (no curbs or obstacles), an open parking lot after some rain, etc are good places to get sideways.
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The FR-S isn't that prone to oversteer, especially for a RWD car.

Thinking you need to "outdrive" the computer and turning off VSC on public roads will get you into trouble. In fact if you're a novice driver, VSC will make you post better laps on a track.

Also, drifting is what happens when you can't control a car properly around a track (or something normal if you're a fan of dirt oval, rally, or ice racing), so try not to drift the car. It makes you look like an amateur and destroys your tires even faster.
Drifting happens when I DO control my car properly around a track. It makes me look awesome and destroys my tires SUPER FAST and that's the way I like it. I spend probably $2000 a year on rear tires.

I love it when people buy a sports car that is meant to be driven fast and they are concerned about tire wear. If you don't want to wear your tires buy a Prius, I hear those are slow.
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Don't start a sentence with "Hey guys, watch this!" and proceed to do something stupid...
I almost snorted milk through my nose, you need to warn someone when you drop a laugh bomb.

Reminds me of when I hung out with the RWD GNX guys in my 86 Monte Carlo SS

My favorite was " Check this out.....Slam "
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