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Dark · 04-19-2011, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Archer256

what? The SC got discontinued lol i dont even get how that was relevant to my post

Well, Lexus SC is being developed with injection of sportiness( probably hybrid motor to boost power like LS and GS). It will probably be on the showroom in 2013. They discontinued SC because they need more time to develop it, just like Chrysler did to Viper.
What I want to say is, Lexus is developing SC, so there is no need for more aggressive car. Or you mean ES with Camry chassis?

prighello · 04-26-2011, 12:59 AM

I've said it before, but if its a Scion at least it'll have pure pricing so we don't have to deal with dealer markup...which on a hot car like this would be prevalent.

Honestly as long as the car delivers performance wise and they don't cheap on the interior I couldn't careless what badge it wears.

At this point I'm just tired of waiting...it's been 3 or 4 years now and frankly I need a new car. I don't know how much longer I can hold out.

racinstylez · 04-26-2011, 01:18 AM

Sure, I'm upset that Toyota has basically said F*** You to their United States enthusiasts. but if you think about, so has every car manufacture. We have always received "water downed" versions of vehicles. We never received the Nissan S15 Silvia, or any GTR like the R32, R33, R34. They stopped production of the RX-7 here in 1995 while in Japan it ran till 2002. It seems we get shafted no matter what. The reason why we always get the short end of the stick, im not sure. Maybe its the DOT or some other federal organization. It could also be that they know enthusiasts here like to convert to Japanese spec, so they make more money with part sales...

Its all good, because hopefully the Japanese version of the FR-S will have only minor tweaks. If they are you know people will be buying the Japanese parts to convert their Scion over to Japanese specs.

aliphian · 04-26-2011, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by racinstylez

Sure, I'm upset that Toyota has basically said F*** You to their United States enthusiasts. but if you think about, so has every car manufacture. We have always received "water downed" versions of vehicles. We never received the Nissan S15 Silvia, or any GTR like the R32, R33, R34. They stopped production of the RX-7 here in 1995 while in Japan it ran till 2002. It seems we get shafted no matter what. The reason why we always get the short end of the stick, im not sure. Maybe its the DOT or some other federal organization. It could also be that they know enthusiasts here like to convert to Japanese spec, so they make more money with part sales...

Its all good, because hopefully the Japanese version of the FR-S will have only minor tweaks. If they are you know people will be buying the Japanese parts to convert their Scion over to Japanese specs.

I always thought it was because they have to sell the cars cheaper here. I was checking out what the S15 cost in the rest of the world. In 2002, the lowest trim S15 in Australia was $40,990. That is $44,000 US by todays exchange rates!

Calais · 04-26-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by aliphian

I always thought it was because they have to sell the cars cheaper here. I was checking out what the S15 cost in the rest of the world. In 2002, the lowest trim S15 in Australia was $40,990. That is $44,000 US by todays exchange rates!

yes but its not a direct conversion what we have down here is a shit load more government taxes on cars that kack up the price CONSIDERABLY so you can never do a straight money conversion. go try it with the 370z i think base here is something like $72,000 dont know about over there but yea do it and you'll see how much more we get taxed

aliphian · 04-26-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Calais

yes but its not a direct conversion what we have down here is a shit load more government taxes on cars that kack up the price CONSIDERABLY so you can never do a straight money conversion. go try it with the 370z i think base here is something like $72,000 dont know about over there but yea do it and you'll see how much more we get taxed

Oh. But still, I think that the 70's caused the Japanese auto makers to think "Wow, the Americans are cheap bastards!" So I always thought that they tried to keep costs down by giving us the higher volume, less competitive engines. Like in the Silvia, we got the KA24DE instead of the SR20DE (We have a version of the SR20DE in the american market G20 but never a turbo model that I know of). I don't think it was worth the money to them to get the SR20DET to pass American emissions so they just grabbed a motor that was already ok in the US to throw in there.

Allch Chcar · 04-26-2011, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

And?

And so even at best we still have time before it is finished...

Matador · 04-26-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

And so even at best we still have time before it is finished...

2012 is 8 months away. Not likely.

Allch Chcar · 04-27-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

2012 is 8 months away. Not likely.

Well it ain't done!

xantonin · 04-27-2011, 07:34 PM

B-b-but how will Toyota release this car before the world ends in 2012?

Dark · 04-27-2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xantonin

B-b-but how will Toyota release this car before the world ends in 2012?

Shouldn't you commit suicide now before getting greater pain next year? Don't forget to donate to poor people.

04-26-2011, 01:18 AM	#87
racinstylez Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Drives: Maserati Quattroporte Location: Texas Posts: 70 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sure, I'm upset that Toyota has basically said F* You to their United States enthusiasts. but if you think about, so has every car manufacture. We have always received "water downed" versions of vehicles. We never received the Nissan S15 Silvia, or any GTR like the R32, R33, R34. They stopped production of the RX-7 here in 1995 while in Japan it ran till 2002. It seems we get shafted no matter what. The reason why we always get the short end of the stick, im not sure. Maybe its the DOT or some other federal organization. It could also be that they know enthusiasts here like to convert to Japanese spec, so they make more money with part sales... Its all good, because hopefully the Japanese version of the FR-S will have only minor tweaks. If they are you know people will be buying the Japanese parts to convert their Scion over to Japanese specs. __________________ Refined Elegance**

04-27-2011, 07:34 PM	#94
xantonin Mr. Detail Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: 2003 Celica GT-S Location: Cary, NC Posts: 742 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	B-b-but how will Toyota release this car before the world ends in 2012? __________________

04-26-2011, 12:59 AM	#86
prighello Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Mazda RX-8 Location: CA Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've said it before, but if its a Scion at least it'll have pure pricing so we don't have to deal with dealer markup...which on a hot car like this would be prevalent. Honestly as long as the car delivers performance wise and they don't cheap on the interior I couldn't careless what badge it wears. At this point I'm just tired of waiting...it's been 3 or 4 years now and frankly I need a new car. I don't know how much longer I can hold out.

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