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Texas BRZ · 08-10-2012, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkMash

Heel toeing around the streets is like going to the shops in a racing helmet

Hey, I don't see anything wrong with that...

karma003 · 08-12-2012, 11:41 AM

I try heel toeing in my heavy steel toe work boots lol. Only reason is cuz that's when I drive my car most is heading to work, & needless to say its very difficult to heel toe in normal street driving & the. Length of my feet (which I think is normal, size 11) doesn't help. For some reason I guess I angle my feet too much & over shooting the gas pedal & hitting the center hump area. Maybe some race pedals would really help

Auto-Hauss · 08-12-2012, 12:07 PM

OP I'd like to see your technique. Taking the term Heel toe literately is incorrect in modern day cars. If you are physically turning your foot sideways to "heel" "toe" then that's grossly inefficient. Foot placement is key.

track_warrior · 08-12-2012, 01:16 PM

A lot better than my EVO X but i would like a wider gas pedal.

This is what i bought for my Evo x since i found the pedals to far apart and worked like a charm.

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evox-sa...-made-usa.html

Sargy · 08-12-2012, 08:37 PM

Thanks for the link, Slarti

quik1987 · 08-12-2012, 08:54 PM

Did these ever make it to production?

pyro530 · 08-12-2012, 09:06 PM

Sorry, as I didn't have time to read the whole thread but...

I know on the US cars the gas pedal is a bit shorter, because of people getting them caught in the floor mats. You could always get order non USDM pedals for the car.

ill86 · 08-12-2012, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkMash

Heel toeing around the streets is like going to the shops in a racing helmet

I disagree. Proper heel/toe can be used at any speed or driving. Key word; proper.

quik1987 · 08-12-2012, 09:22 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=20

Quote:

PEDALS
Footwork favors the J-spec model, primarily because the manual trans version comes with an extended throttle pedal for heel-toe driving. The US-spec Scion gets the shorter gas pedal, which we hear is due to Toyota’s sensitivity to Americans’ worries about the pedal getting hung up on the floor mat.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13734

streetwaves · 08-12-2012, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill86

I disagree. Proper heel/toe can be used at any speed or driving. Key word; proper.

It can be, and it's good for practice, but it's not even half as useful or necessary on public roads.

fatoni · 08-12-2012, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetwaves

It can be, and it's good for practice, but it's not even half as useful or necessary on public roads.

with 200 hp its not really necessary on a race track either

ill86 · 08-12-2012, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatoni

with 200 hp its not really necessary on a race track either

HP has nothing to do with proper braking technique...

ill86 · 08-12-2012, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetwaves

It can be, and it's good for practice, but it's not even half as useful or necessary on public roads.

It is not necessary.
It is useful.

fatoni · 08-12-2012, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill86

HP has nothing to do with proper braking technique...

heel toe has nothing to do with proper braking technique. its for accelerating.

08-12-2012, 11:41 AM	#44
karma003 auto-crosser/drifter Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 scion FR-S black M/T Location: corpus christi, TX Posts: 357 Thanks: 496 Thanked 51 Times in 40 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I try heel toeing in my heavy steel toe work boots lol. Only reason is cuz that's when I drive my car most is heading to work, & needless to say its very difficult to heel toe in normal street driving & the. Length of my feet (which I think is normal, size 11) doesn't help. For some reason I guess I angle my feet too much & over shooting the gas pedal & hitting the center hump area. Maybe some race pedals would really help __________________ My build http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12770 Last edited by karma003; 08-12-2012 at 12:14 PM.

08-12-2012, 01:16 PM	#46
track_warrior Track Junkie Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: Faster than the Stig! Location: TX Posts: 1,338 Thanks: 530 Thanked 770 Times in 363 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	A lot better than my EVO X but i would like a wider gas pedal. This is what i bought for my Evo x since i found the pedals to far apart and worked like a charm. http://forums.evolutionm.net/evox-sa...-made-usa.html __________________ Compensating a heavy car with horsepower is like giving an alcoholic cocaine to sober him up...

08-12-2012, 09:06 PM	#49
pyro530 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: Ultramarine FR-S 6MT Location: Chico, CA Posts: 303 Thanks: 175 Thanked 102 Times in 46 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Sorry, as I didn't have time to read the whole thread but... I know on the US cars the gas pedal is a bit shorter, because of people getting them caught in the floor mats. You could always get order non USDM pedals for the car. __________________ Current: FR-S Ultramarine 6MT - Took delivery 05/30/2012 - Now for sale here 1995 M3 Coupe MT - the "Bavarian Bumblebee" Past: 1994 Integra - Sold \| 2005 Dodge SRT-4 - Totaled by Hail \| 1997 Acura 2.2 CL slowmobile - Sold \| 1991 BMW E30 - Sold \| 1991 Acura Integra GS - Wrecked \| 1971 Chevy C-10 shortbed stepside - Sold \| 1973 Camaro Z-28 Clone - Stolen

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Auto-Hauss Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S-Asphalt Location: Sin City Posts: 134 Thanks: 24 Thanked 42 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	OP I'd like to see your technique. Taking the term Heel toe literately is incorrect in modern day cars. If you are physically turning your foot sideways to "heel" "toe" then that's grossly inefficient. Foot placement is key.

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