Dynosty Turbo FR-S FA20 Highest Horsepower Record 324WHP - Page 6 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ImAwesome · 08-11-2012, 02:30 AM

holy crap thats alot of whp for 9psi on a 2871

subatoy · 08-11-2012, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRZ-One

that car is out of hand...

***In regards to the stock internal parts.
I talked with a tech at the Subaru dealership, he claims that the transmission is only designed to handle a 10% increase in torque. Everything was built with weight in mind and apparently the gearing in the MT is made of lightweight materials. They said they had the same issue with the WRX STI's when people started upgrading them, they were burning through their trannies and differentials..

I did some further snooping around trying to confirm or reject his comments, and it appears that TRD will be releasing a beefier transmission to handle additional torque to go in conjunction with all of the performance upgrades they'll be releasing. I guess time will tell, maybe sooner with that monster turbo.

the STI tranny has ALWAYS been a beast that can take a lot ob abuse.
the one in the WRX is a weak POS though.

ill86 · 08-11-2012, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRZ-One

that car is out of hand...

***In regards to the stock internal parts.
I talked with a tech at the Subaru dealership, he claims that the transmission is only designed to handle a 10% increase in torque. Everything was built with weight in mind and apparently the gearing in the MT is made of lightweight materials. They said they had the same issue with the WRX STI's when people started upgrading them, they were burning through their trannies and differentials..

Doesn't seem correct.. That's only an increase of 15 lb-ft of torque. The AZ6 the TL70 was based off of held approx 215-220 lb-ft.

Tomzilla · 08-11-2012, 02:36 AM

That's frightening..

20valvewynn83 · 08-11-2012, 02:48 AM

I need to change my underwear thanks

subatoy · 08-11-2012, 02:49 AM

Im worried about the transmission in this car as it's rated for low torque.
I found the article that talks all the specifics:

http://kaizenfactor.wordpress.com/20...e-know-so-far/

"For those of you who are looking forward to turbo or supercharge your BRZ / FR-S / GT 86 via the aftermarket, however, we must remind you of a crucial caveat that appears on the second photo of this article: “Medium Torque Capacity RWD 6-Speed Manual transmission (AZ6)”.

"the Aisin AZ6 (or J160 in Toyotaspeak) was deemed to be too weak."

QFry · 08-11-2012, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subatoy

Im worried about the transmission in this car as it's rated for low torque.
I found the article that talks all the specifics:

http://kaizenfactor.wordpress.com/20...e-know-so-far/

"For those of you who are looking forward to turbo or supercharge your BRZ / FR-S / GT 86 via the aftermarket, however, we must remind you of a crucial caveat that appears on the second photo of this article: “Medium Torque Capacity RWD 6-Speed Manual transmission (AZ6)”.

"the Aisin AZ6 (or J160 in Toyotaspeak) was deemed to be too weak."

from another thread but...it appears they change that opinion

or maybe i am drunk and reading wrong...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewie4299

I was going to point put that you are wrong and add some supporting documentation until I remembered that we are talking about the auto here. You are correct. I felt I should still post since the information is useful.

As for the 6MT I believe it should be treated as a new tranny.

http://kaizenfactor.wordpress.com/20...n-or-is-scion/

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Edit: Ne4w transmission (6MT) is NOT the AZ6 but is the all-new TL70...

ill86 · 08-11-2012, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QFry

from another thread but...it appears they change that opinion

or maybe i am drunk and reading wrong...

Edit: Ne4w transmission (6MT) is NOT the AZ6 but is the all-new TL70...

Correct.

FT-86GOD · 08-11-2012, 04:16 AM

Another 76+ whp and im sold......... Good work!!!!......

Coheed · 08-11-2012, 04:17 AM

Guys, whatever they rate the trans for you can double it generally with a sprung clutch and good gear oil and it's fine. I pushed 440wtq from a transmission rated at 180 working torque. Now I'm pushing 385wtq from a 6 speed from a Maxima in my sr20 sentra. The RS6 is rated for 240 working torque. It holds just fine.

francosolracer · 08-11-2012, 04:29 AM

In for updates

serialk11r · 08-11-2012, 04:29 AM

Disabled direct injectors?
If so,

Kochinopride · 08-11-2012, 04:36 AM

So if you can build an automatic solution, I'm up for the kit, depending on price (of course).

ed209 · 08-11-2012, 04:53 AM

i think the trans will be fine guys, i just wouldn't recommend doing continuous hard freeway pulls in 6th...

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08-11-2012, 02:30 AM	#71
ImAwesome Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 99' M3, 13' SWP Brz Location: Durham/Pinehurst, NC Posts: 346 Thanks: 89 Thanked 85 Times in 67 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	holy crap thats alot of whp for 9psi on a 2871

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subatoy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: subatoy Location: Atlanta Posts: 667 Thanks: 32 Thanked 198 Times in 106 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Im worried about the transmission in this car as it's rated for low torque. I found the article that talks all the specifics: http://kaizenfactor.wordpress.com/20...e-know-so-far/ "For those of you who are looking forward to turbo or supercharge your BRZ / FR-S / GT 86 via the aftermarket, however, we must remind you of a crucial caveat that appears on the second photo of this article: “Medium Torque Capacity RWD 6-Speed Manual transmission (AZ6)”. "the Aisin AZ6 (or J160 in Toyotaspeak) was deemed to be too weak."

08-11-2012, 04:17 AM	#80
Coheed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: DGM BRZ Limited Location: Seattle Posts: 813 Thanks: 209 Thanked 225 Times in 157 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Guys, whatever they rate the trans for you can double it generally with a sprung clutch and good gear oil and it's fine. I pushed 440wtq from a transmission rated at 180 working torque. Now I'm pushing 385wtq from a 6 speed from a Maxima in my sr20 sentra. The RS6 is rated for 240 working torque. It holds just fine.

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ed209 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: '12 Mustang GT Location: San Diego Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i think the trans will be fine guys, i just wouldn't recommend doing continuous hard freeway pulls in 6th...

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