Engine idle chirping (cricket) noise poll.

[sierra]

Originally Posted by Marrk

Unless this "easy solution" comes with some unintended consequences.

Such as? Better MPG and a smoother engine?

For the record, the noise gets louder with hotter conditions because it's caused by friction.

[jschendel]

Was about 110 here today in SoCal and I had a pretty loud chirp today. Definetely louder when its hot...

heres a video of it

[sierra]

Originally Posted by Brimford

Another heads up, i called Scion and I told them that i felt deceived because the motor didnt sound like this from the factory. I basically told if i knew the motor was going to sound like this I wouldn't have purchased it as it is very emberassing to me.

I know some people don't care, but every other sports car out there has a great engine sound and I could have picked up any other car but I have wanted this car for a year...so I'm really bummed. The car looks great!

Anyways back on my story, i told them i felt deceived and lied to, and they were quick to tell me that they would send me an arbitration form!!!!

WTH Toyota...i just want this fixed

They've had plenty of time to fix this. How about taking it to an automotive engineer and getting a report to present to Toyota and post it on the net too?
It's getting tiresome reading the uninformed posts that happily accept this as being normal because that's what the dealers are parroting.

[alrashwa]

Originally Posted by Gerri

When I picked up the 86 it had the check engine light on the dealer got a technician to fix it. After I took the 86 got less than one mile and the engine stopped. The car was towed back to the dealer and supposedly fix after two days and 70 miles of test driving, however a knocking sound remains.. The dealer claims it was running retarded. Has anyone else had this problem??

I'd avoid driving it hard, or at all. Call Scion corporate. Tell them you are aware of a manufacturing defect and you want it fixed ASAP. You shouldn't have to give them any benefit of the doubt, this is a brand new car.

I really think we need to be aggressive about the issues we are all experiencing. If we escalate this to the point that upper level or Japanese management is alerted, we will get much faster results.

You guys remember when those floor mats were moving too much in the Toyota's a few years ago? The CEO of Toyota bowed to a congressional panel in shame... This is just as shameful in my opinion. My car died 3 times less than 24 hours after purchasing it. It's an embarrassment.

[brianbot5000]

Originally Posted by alrashwa

I really think we need to be aggressive about the issues we are all experiencing. If we escalate this to the point that upper level or Japanese management is alerted, we will get much faster results.

You guys remember when those floor mats were moving too much in the Toyota's a few years ago? The CEO of Toyota bowed to a congressional panel in shame... This is just as shameful in my opinion. My car died 3 times less than 24 hours after purchasing it. It's an embarrassment.

Agreed. This is the age where you can blow up an issue really quick on Facebook, Twitter, etc. The time is about right for this one to get blown up so that proper attention is given...or, if proper attention *is* being given behind the scenes at Subaru/Toyota, now is the time for them to officially recognize the issue and assure customers that a fix is in the works. Random dealers or technicians saying they know about the issue isn't the same as corporate saying something.

[sierra]

Originally Posted by Marrk

Compression ratio. I believe it is 12.5 to 1. But it shouldn't need 94 if the factory says 91 is good enough.

The Mazda CX-5 2L direct injection engine is 13:1 and requires regular low octane fuel.
So it's not the compression ratio. The 86 has been tuned to use 98 octane here and I believe 93 octane[same] in the US.

[Grishbok]

Its the direct injection system that makes that noise. Its normal and you hear it on any and all DI systems. You wouldnt believe how many months Audi spent attempting to explain that when the FSI motor was released with DI. cest la vie.

[cruzinbill]

Originally Posted by alrashwa

I'd avoid driving it hard, or at all. Call Scion corporate. Tell them you are aware of a manufacturing defect and you want it fixed ASAP. You shouldn't have to give them any benefit of the doubt, this is a brand new car.

I really think we need to be aggressive about the issues we are all experiencing. If we escalate this to the point that upper level or Japanese management is alerted, we will get much faster results.

You guys remember when those floor mats were moving too much in the Toyota's a few years ago? The CEO of Toyota bowed to a congressional panel in shame... This is just as shameful in my opinion. My car died 3 times less than 24 hours after purchasing it. It's an embarrassment.

Dont compare this to the floor mats... that was complete bullshit period. If you are having problems with your car suddenly dying, then take the shit to the dealer. If they wont help you go to a different one. Idk why this is a constant problem with you people. You have a new car that is under warranty grow some fuckin balls and get it taken care of instead of coming on here to whine about it.

As for the chirp and people saying... ohhh I dont like it, its a noise im not used to... this is the thing from the 90s when people were bitching about the 4runners and a few other cars "ticking" which was the fuel injection then. If it isnt causing a problem then stop wasting toyotas time on it. Next it will be "I dont like the noise of the A/C after you turn the car off".

[Pscylo]

Having driven the cricket mobile around in temperatures ranging from 80ish to 116 (Yes 116....two days ago)....it is far worse when it is hotter outside....anyone driving around where it is cold have the issue where you hear the bait and tackle while moving with the windows up?

[Hanzo]

Originally Posted by cruzinbill

Dont compare this to the floor mats... that was complete bullshit period. If you are having problems with your car suddenly dying, then take the shit to the dealer. If they wont help you go to a different one. Idk why this is a constant problem with you people. You have a new car that is under warranty grow some fuckin balls and get it taken care of instead of coming on here to whine about it.

As for the chirp and people saying... ohhh I dont like it, its a noise im not used to... this is the thing from the 90s when people were bitching about the 4runners and a few other cars "ticking" which was the fuel injection then. If it isnt causing a problem then stop wasting toyotas time on it. Next it will be "I dont like the noise of the A/C after you turn the car off".

For the 10th time, we are complaining because when we bought the car for several hundred miles we did not have the noise. If its normal it would have had it right off the lot.

[Marrk]

Originally Posted by Hanzo

For the 10th time, we are complaining because when we bought the car for several hundred miles we did not have the noise. If its normal it would have had it right off the lot.

There is a logic to this statement. Obviously, something changed during the first several hundred miles.

[Brimford]

Originally Posted by Hanzo

For the 10th time, we are complaining because when we bought the car for several hundred miles we did not have the noise. If its normal it would have had it right off the lot.

This

I can't believe how many trolls with nothing good to say prowl the internet. Most of them don't even own the car, it's pathetic. Just trying to stir fire.

Does anyone else really worry that if it's a washer that's not getting proper lubrication in the FUEL PUMP that it could be a serious safety issue?

Friction and fuel don't go well together....

[Marrk]

^^I think there is ample evidence that, yeah, people are worried. Is it a safety issue? I don't know. Is it a functionality-reliability issue? I hope not.

BTW, you're not a troll, are you?

[Brimford]

Why would I be a troll? I'm actually reporting what's going on as I have been calling Scion through the process and encouraging others to call them as well?