AST's at buttonwillow raceway - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Matt Andrews · 08-08-2012, 10:31 PM

thanks Emilio. I missed that post.

Jamal, thanks! I'm pretty happy with what I've got, but if someone wanted to set up a comparison test, I would participate. What might be easier to test is finding a car in socal with the BC's you refer to and throw the same wheels/tires on both cars. I do know there is a set of BC triples in SoCal or on its way. I know the car's owner. I wonder if others would be interested in a comparison?...

RallySport Direct · 08-09-2012, 12:10 AM

Thanks for the reviews, I always get excited about new products for these cars, and glad to see them making a nice difference! Thanks for the post

Rick

der_rainman · 08-09-2012, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Andrews

thanks Emilio. I missed that post.

Jamal, thanks! I'm pretty happy with what I've got, but if someone wanted to set up a comparison test, I would participate. What might be easier to test is finding a car in socal with the BC's you refer to and throw the same wheels/tires on both cars. I do know there is a set of BC triples in SoCal or on its way. I know the car's owner. I wonder if others would be interested in a comparison?...

I'd be interested in this comparison. Just set the car's up with the same tires/wheels/brake pads/alignment and compare times with the same driver. Would be interested to see if there is much of a time difference between this popular budget coilover and one of the premium brands.

Matt Andrews · 08-09-2012, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by der_rainman

I'd be interested in this comparison. Just set the car's up with the same tires/wheels/brake pads/alignment and compare times with the same driver. Would be interested to see if there is much of a time difference between this popular budget coilover and one of the premium brands.

from other chassis I've driven, there is a ton of time between quality dampers and entry level stuff. I would imagine the same applies here.

ultra · 08-09-2012, 12:50 PM

I'm thinking the same. That vid of BW shows the suspension doing a whole ton of work.

A custom valved budget coilover with the right springs might come close but I suspect that those dampers are very very busy on a course like that, which would make every characteristic of the shock absolutely vital to allow the driver to extract the most from the car with confidence.

I don't think that any off the shelf budget coilover would come anywhere close to providing that level of ride and control.

Pure speculation of course. An actual comparison would be awesome.

sw20kosh · 08-13-2012, 05:47 PM

Very interested in these AST's. Didn't think going to coils would shave off that many seconds from the stock susp.

Matt Andrews · 08-14-2012, 01:18 AM

AST's are worth atleast another second if not 2 from our tests with the adjustments they are making before broad release. All of this from a single adjustable coilover with only 12 adjustments.

who says you need triple adjustable dampers, remote canisters, preload adjustable bodies or 36 adjustment positions to be seriously fast?

ill86 · 08-14-2012, 01:45 AM

:happy0180: Great job and thanks for the thread!

ASSALBERT · 09-20-2012, 06:48 PM

dang i didnt see this thread till now. I was right in my prediction of 2:03!

GTM_Challenge · 09-26-2012, 05:50 PM

Can't wait to see more progress on this. Just read all of the blog and the tread...waiting for more!

Acree · 06-24-2013, 02:03 PM

Would love an update. I'm considering these coilovers.

armythug · 07-02-2013, 03:16 PM

Same here.

08-08-2012, 10:31 PM	#15
Matt Andrews Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: race cars Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 253 Thanks: 31 Thanked 150 Times in 68 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s)	thanks Emilio. I missed that post. Jamal, thanks! I'm pretty happy with what I've got, but if someone wanted to set up a comparison test, I would participate. What might be easier to test is finding a car in socal with the BC's you refer to and throw the same wheels/tires on both cars. I do know there is a set of BC triples in SoCal or on its way. I know the car's owner. I wonder if others would be interested in a comparison?... __________________ 11/19/12 - Just back from Redline TimeAttack's demo event. Video and write up in link below. http://fecompetition.wordpress.com/ https://www.facebook.com/FECompetition

08-09-2012, 12:50 PM	#19
ultra Curious cat. Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 86 GT base M/T - Red Location: Dubai Posts: 775 Thanks: 840 Thanked 383 Times in 191 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s)	I'm thinking the same. That vid of BW shows the suspension doing a whole ton of work. A custom valved budget coilover with the right springs might come close but I suspect that those dampers are very very busy on a course like that, which would make every characteristic of the shock absolutely vital to allow the driver to extract the most from the car with confidence. I don't think that any off the shelf budget coilover would come anywhere close to providing that level of ride and control. Pure speculation of course. An actual comparison would be awesome. __________________ 2013 Toyota 86 GT M/T 2009 Renault Clio Sport R27 Team F1 Edition (sold) 1991 Mazda MX5 Miata (sold) 2007 Mitsubishi Evo 9 RS (sold) 2006 VW Golf R32 (sold)

08-14-2012, 01:18 AM	#21
Matt Andrews Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: race cars Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 253 Thanks: 31 Thanked 150 Times in 68 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s)	AST's are worth atleast another second if not 2 from our tests with the adjustments they are making before broad release. All of this from a single adjustable coilover with only 12 adjustments. who says you need triple adjustable dampers, remote canisters, preload adjustable bodies or 36 adjustment positions to be seriously fast? __________________ 11/19/12 - Just back from Redline TimeAttack's demo event. Video and write up in link below. http://fecompetition.wordpress.com/ https://www.facebook.com/FECompetition

07-02-2013, 03:16 PM	#26
armythug Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Pegasus White 86GTS Location: Perth WA Posts: 608 Thanks: 371 Thanked 108 Times in 84 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Same here. __________________ Pegasus White 6MT got it. :happy0180:

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