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Old 08-08-2012, 10:31 PM   #1961
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Some lawyers charge $100 an hour, some $1000. Dons time, experience, and knowledge is worth a preimum he sets.
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:37 PM   #1962
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I think you're missing the point. The throttle plate will always be able to reduce the airflow to the desired power level. However the exhaust gas is always going through the turbine, even with fancy electronically controlled wastegates. It's not the boost that's the problem, it's the turbo attempting to create boost. It will pressurize the intake tract before the throttle body, and pose a restriction in the exhaust. The engine doesn't see the compressor trying to push more air past the throttle, but it does need to expend more energy pushing exhaust through the turbine.
There is no point to miss. That's how the car drives. If you are not hitting boost...You are not hitting boost. Not really complicated. The turbo having exhaust gases just going through it, does not reduce mpg. It's the opposite. It will in many cases increase mpg. Plenty of people report mpg increase when under normal driving conditions. It's recirculating that energy leaving the engine (exhaust gases).
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:54 PM   #1963
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Either way, in the end, it's likely to be

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i think 5000 for a kit is cheap. tuning is always going to be a factor. once you add a different exhaust and pump you will have to tune it again anyway..... all in all 5000 is a good price.
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There is no point to miss. That's how the car drives. If you are not hitting boost...You are not hitting boost. Not really complicated. The turbo having exhaust gases just going through it, does not reduce mpg. It's the opposite. It will in many cases increase mpg. Plenty of people report mpg increase when under normal driving conditions. It's recirculating that energy leaving the engine (exhaust gases).
It does not recirculate energy, that is all I have to say.
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:33 PM   #1966
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I initially scoffed at the idea of spending $5k on a turbo kit. But, after watching this thread, I'm more than ok with the price. Nearly 200 dyno pulls on this kit -- just in proving the kit works. It uses top-notch parts and judging by the construction of the AP exhaust I just installed, Don's not cutting any corners on craftsmanship either. If this kit is as beefy as the exhaust, you'll have something that won't fail anytime soon. Of course, there's the question about how the engine will stand up to FI but that's out of Don's hands.

If you like the results and don't mind the price, buy it.

If you like the results but hate the price, save up or simply wait until another solution comes along. It's not like it is a one-off, patented idea.

You get what you pay for and I think $5k is right in the wheelhouse for serious buyers that don't want to skimp on parts, craftsmanship and proven results.

The sheer transparency of Accelerated Performance should count for something, too. We have seen everything from Day 1. We've heard about most -- if not all -- of the design decisions. Honestly, this thread has probably proven to be a great resource to other kit developers, too!

It's weird that people are beating Don up over the price. He's gotta make money and if he thinks he can do so selling these at $5k a pop, more power to him. I don't think he'll have a problem selling a boatload of these.
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why is everyone saying 6k,quit saying this.for this setup the intro price is $4995 for early adopters as stated from don above this message so stop the 6k mark bs.
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:44 AM   #1968
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why is everyone saying 6k,quit saying this.for this setup the intro price is $4995 for early adopters as stated from don above this message so stop the 6k mark bs.
I think people are referencing 6k as this is something most people save up for. As 5k is an intro price, they'll be looking at 6k by the time they'll be able to afford it.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:24 AM   #1969
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I think they're also thinking about the tune cost on top of the kit. Plus some people will pay to have it installed.

That being said, if my BRZ had this power, I'd be like this:

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Well I just wasted another 15 minuits reading about belabouring idiots going on about the price being to high. Stop this now it's damn annoying don't like it piss off. I built a prototype underground mining vehicle. Flame proof exhaust and supercharger manifold that took ages and I'm good at what I do r&d costs end of topic.
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:08 AM   #1971
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I have a RHD distributor is who going to do the upfitting.

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Thanks Don for the update. I have a mechanic friend who will do the install. My only issue is, since there has been a few bit of R&D into ecu which John has done on your vehicle. How will it work with Australian vehicles and the higher octane we use???
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:09 AM   #1972
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why is everyone saying 6k,quit saying this.for this setup the intro price is $4995 for early adopters as stated from don above this message so stop the 6k mark bs.
for us (overseas customers), $4995 for the kit + $800 shipping + $1000 EcuTek cable and tune + $1000 instalation

looking at around $8k
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:30 AM   #1973
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for us (overseas customers), $4995 for the kit + $800 shipping + $1000 EcuTek cable and tune + $1000 instalation

looking at around $8k
But you pay 60cents agallon of fuel so who cares. You ll make up for it in a year or two
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But you pay 60cents agallon of fuel so who cares. You ll make up for it in a year or two
what are you talking about? what does gas prices have to do with a tubo kit? ppl from Europe pay more for fuel, does that mean they have a discounted price on the kit?!
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