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Dustin@Dynosty · 08-08-2012, 11:15 AM

you can remove the two black plates/brackets that cover the injection system and reach your hand (or the hand of someone skinny) down there and get to them. The front two I can 100% confirm as I have removed the coil already from cyl number 1. The rear two are a little tighter but I believe it will not be an issue. The rubber on the coil is very flexible (at least at 2k miles) and can bend pretty close to 90 degrees.

smbrm · 08-08-2012, 11:54 AM

Regardless of how the technician actually changes the spark plugs, I am sure that the standard job rate cost will be based on the official recommended engine lift method!

empower-auto · 08-08-2012, 12:23 PM

If I don't have an inline swap by 60k, I'm doing it wrong anyways

.Alex · 08-08-2012, 03:25 PM

Did they not use iridum spark plugs? If not, why weren't iridium ones used like every other modern car nowdays and only require replacing every 100k-120k miles?

slizoth · 08-08-2012, 03:46 PM

Old News, every engine has some pain in the ass maintenance and this cars is the spark plugs.

Stu baru · 08-08-2012, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finch1750

All Subarus basically say you have to pull the engine, but in reality it isn't the case. This was discussed at length in another thread where a ton of previous Subaru owners basically agrees it should be easy enough with a flex head ratchet, long sockets, and swivel adapter maybe. My STi didn't need to and the manual said it was required as well. Just takes removing the air box and washer tank on that, I'm sure this car should be similar.

Bingo. True for our old Outback XT, will be true for wife's Forester XT as well, and now for my BRZ. Not easily done, but no engine dismount required.

Stu baru · 08-08-2012, 03:51 PM

Assuming you're not going to tackle the work yourself...a thought for the FR-S folks:

Subaru has A LOT more experience servicing their boxer engines (even if this one is new), maybe price the 60K service at one of those shops as "BRZ" and see what they say? Maybe they'll be cheaper.

DatDudeLoso · 08-08-2012, 08:11 PM

7500 already?? man i thought i put too many miles on mine already. Im just under 5k as of today. LONG DISTANCE RELATIONSHIP (5hr drive) STINK. i love her, but from now on its a rental. gotta keep my baby under 15 for the yr.

Chewie4299 · 08-09-2012, 09:34 AM

I helped a friend change the plugs on two E-350 vans with the big gas V8 they offered mid 2000s. I did this twice. 32 individual plug changes. Don't remember the engine size but I did most of the work while he assisted. Pretty sure the manual would say the engine has to be pulled.

Those vans saw ridiculous mileage for his business.

I basically had to cram myself into a rather awkward set of positions to get at most of the plugs from the floor of the front of the van. It was tough but as long as one doesn't mind getting dirty it was very doable.

If folks are saying most subie motors can be done without pulling the engine this is what I envision.

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08-08-2012, 12:23 PM	#31
empower-auto Kouki-Monster Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Saskatoon, SK Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 11 Thanked 562 Times in 261 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s)	If I don't have an inline swap by 60k, I'm doing it wrong anyways __________________ Rich Anderson EMPOWER AUTO

08-09-2012, 09:34 AM	#37
Chewie4299 Spaceman Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 Firestorm Scion FR-S Location: Wallingford, CT Posts: 1,581 Thanks: 854 Thanked 860 Times in 468 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s)	I helped a friend change the plugs on two E-350 vans with the big gas V8 they offered mid 2000s. I did this twice. 32 individual plug changes. Don't remember the engine size but I did most of the work while he assisted. Pretty sure the manual would say the engine has to be pulled. Those vans saw ridiculous mileage for his business. I basically had to cram myself into a rather awkward set of positions to get at most of the plugs from the floor of the front of the van. It was tough but as long as one doesn't mind getting dirty it was very doable. If folks are saying most subie motors can be done without pulling the engine this is what I envision. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 __________________ 2013 Firestorm Scion FR-S - Car Journal

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08-08-2012, 11:15 AM	#29
Dustin@Dynosty Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: KY Posts: 555 Thanks: 1 Thanked 261 Times in 131 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s)	you can remove the two black plates/brackets that cover the injection system and reach your hand (or the hand of someone skinny) down there and get to them. The front two I can 100% confirm as I have removed the coil already from cyl number 1. The rear two are a little tighter but I believe it will not be an issue. The rubber on the coil is very flexible (at least at 2k miles) and can bend pretty close to 90 degrees.

08-08-2012, 11:54 AM	#30
smbrm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Drives: Scion FRS Ht Lva(AT) Location: Alberta Posts: 409 Thanks: 30 Thanked 81 Times in 54 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s)	Regardless of how the technician actually changes the spark plugs, I am sure that the standard job rate cost will be based on the official recommended engine lift method!

08-08-2012, 03:25 PM	#32
.Alex Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Scion Location: D-town Posts: 50 Thanks: 0 Thanked 24 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Did they not use iridum spark plugs? If not, why weren't iridium ones used like every other modern car nowdays and only require replacing every 100k-120k miles?

08-08-2012, 03:46 PM	#33
slizoth Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 2013 WRB Subaru BRZ Location: Oregon Posts: 454 Thanks: 185 Thanked 70 Times in 45 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s)	Old News, every engine has some pain in the ass maintenance and this cars is the spark plugs.

08-08-2012, 03:51 PM	#35
Stu baru Official Cobb beer knurd Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ-L MT SWP Location: USA Posts: 168 Thanks: 45 Thanked 34 Times in 28 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Assuming you're not going to tackle the work yourself...a thought for the FR-S folks: Subaru has A LOT more experience servicing their boxer engines (even if this one is new), maybe price the 60K service at one of those shops as "BRZ" and see what they say? Maybe they'll be cheaper.

08-08-2012, 08:11 PM	#36
DatDudeLoso Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Raven Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 142 Thanks: 38 Thanked 16 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s)	7500 already?? man i thought i put too many miles on mine already. Im just under 5k as of today. LONG DISTANCE RELATIONSHIP (5hr drive) STINK. i love her, but from now on its a rental. gotta keep my baby under 15 for the yr.

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