Somebody is bitter...

[sho220]

Did that sob just insult Rick Springfield?!?!? That's going too far!!!

[Khyron686]

Jack is a strange bird. He used to be a car forum junkie and then got a job as a car reviewer. He's a good driver though, and his comments make some sense. He was in the CTS-V challenge a few years ago which was pretty interesting.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/200...s-v-challenge/

But at some point you're always splitting hairs. If a Miata is 100%, a FR-S is 95% and a Corolla is 10%, and I can't live with a 2 seater convertible, does that make the FR-S a horrible choice? No. Also, I didn't see 1 mention of the GC's numb steering/shifting which is pretty much universally acknowledged.

One of his other "against the grain" articles talked about how great a Jetta GLI (FWD, no lsd) was as a pure normal person drivers car vs a track star. Again, good points.

[Shagaliscious]

Originally Posted by jadewbj

Hmm who do I trust, the guy in the sparkly jacket or......

Jeremy Clarkson comments on the Toyota GT86:

‘I’m sorry, Ford, Vauxhall and Suzuki, but the Toyota is just better at corners than all of you… It’s a real-world hero.’

‘…hand on heart, this was one of my favourite cars. It’s not slow – it really isn’t – it’s just that you have to work to get performance from it, but is that a problem? It sounds sweet, is smooth and has the best throttle response of anything here, 911 included.

‘This is hysterical. It’s so much more powerful than you’d think. At £25,000 it’s extremely good value for money.’

‘The Toyota is dainty and maximises the benefits of its layout and low centre of gravity. It’s a car that asks why you need to go round a corner at a zillion miles an hour. You don’t. Even pottering around, it’s different and interesting.

‘Acceleration is fun, but the noise is as important as the kick in the back, and I’d rather spend 30 seconds wringing the GT86 up to speed than three seconds being pummelled by the McLaren.

‘Our seven testers had the McLaren, 911 and Exige in a photo finish for second place, with the GT86 out in front. The Toyota isn’t big, it isn’t especially clever, but it’s fun.

‘The Toyota was the car everyone kept jumping into for “one last quick go”, and the one they got out of with the daftest smiles on their faces.’

I can't say I always agree with Jezza, but he knows his cars.

[86'd]

I know it's not a big deal but @30 years old I don't know if I'm "Gen X" or "Gen Y"!!! Those labels really p!$$ me off. I feel like I'm in generational limbo. Wikipedia doesn't help either.

On topic, TTAC has always been this way. It is his opinion and I see nothing wrong with it. "Truth about cars" name is ironic if you guys haven't figured it out.

Second to last, the term journalist doesn't really exist as you all know it. It's not you either are or you aren't, its how colored the news is by opinion. It just happens to be colored a lot in this piece.

Lastly, he said he "kinda loves" the FR-S. I think the author really built up this car in his head and in the end, it didn't meet his expectations.

[Auto-Hauss]

This was a pretty entertaining read.
However there is something intangible about the FR-S. If I wanted a Miata or Genesis I would have bought one.

[JTM]

Guys, he is just another bogger, no need in getting worked up over his oppinions. If Jeremy Clarkson likes it, then nothing a blogger says matters.

Originally Posted by 86'd

I know it's not a big deal but @30 years old I don't know if I'm "Gen X" or "Gen Y"!!! Those labels really p!$$ me off. I feel like I'm in generational limbo. Wikipedia doesn't help either.

I'm in the same boat, technically you are Gen Y; but if you can:
-hold a job
-don't live with your parents
-step away from facebook for weeks at a time
-light a fire without accelorant
-hold a face to face conversation with a stranger
-survive a few days without a phone
then you can join me in claiming Gen X.

[Snoopyalien24]

Originally Posted by FBaxteR-S

Probably my favourite part so far:



But this personal, grudge-holding paragraph came close:



Apparently personal preference/driving style is irrelevant in his world? And he considers personal-biased-based-journalism superior to facts and personal choice, of course.

But a Mazda Miata haz no roof and is expensive and.. and only like 180hp and no room for tires and did I mention no roof?

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by 86'd

I know it's not a big deal but @30 years old I don't know if I'm "Gen X" or "Gen Y"!!! Those labels really p!$$ me off. I feel like I'm in generational limbo. Wikipedia doesn't help either.

On topic, TTAC has always been this way. It is his opinion and I see nothing wrong with it. "Truth about cars" name is ironic if you guys haven't figured it out.

Second to last, the term journalist doesn't really exist as you all know it. It's not you either are or you aren't, its how colored the news is by opinion. It just happens to be colored a lot in this piece.

Lastly, he said he "kinda loves" the FR-S. I think the author really built up this car in his head and in the end, it didn't meet his expectations.

You're in the same boat as me...but I can safely say we are early Gen Y. Gen X was in college in the early 90s.

[YukiHachiRoku]

Originally Posted by 86'd

I know it's not a big deal but @30 years old I don't know if I'm "Gen X" or "Gen Y"!!! Those labels really p!$$ me off. I feel like I'm in generational limbo. Wikipedia doesn't help either.

I totally feel ya brah! Tell the author I prefer the loft, not the basement, and the house is brick, not stucco, and all my student loans are paid off...

[Jordo!]

Bitter schmitter.

He's right.

And I think more disappointed than bitter.

Originally Posted by .

Why buy the FR-S when the Genesis is available? Because it’s a Toyota and therefore reliable? Well, it’s a Toyota with a Subaru engine.

That observation in particular is painfully true. Even for a first model year, the car has had a LOT of problems.

BTW, if you were born after 1981, you are Gen Y.

[Kunzite]

Bugs Bunny read that article:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo"]What A Maroon! - YouTube[/ame]

[YukiHachiRoku]

Originally Posted by Jordo!

BTW, if you were born after 1981, you are Gen Y.

What if you were born on in 1981? Is that X?

[Spaceywilly]

Oh, hey, it's that same thing they've said over and over again! And the same people posting the same replies to it! This is the last straw, I unsubscribed from TTAC, it's sad that the website that brought the incredible interview with Tetsuya Tada has descended into the worst of internet bickering and ignorance. Good riddance.

FWIW I turned 25 today, make a lot more than Jack Baruth, and don't live with my parents

[Jordo!]

Originally Posted by YukiHachiRoku

What if you were born on in 1981? Is that X?

I believe 1981 is the last year anyone can make a legitimate claim to X, although culturally, you would have more in common with Y.

All the real X'ers are well into or approaching their 40's now.

FWIW, some researchers who look at archival data on attitudes and personality don't draw a distinction between X and Y. They lump us in as all equally self-centered and generally hopeless