Random Thoughts - Part III The Search for Spark (No Politics)

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

We can’t even fire our dirtbag at work. Every time he gets there he somehow weasels out. Usually by throwing everyone under the bus. I’ve been here a little over 2 years and he’s had 3 final written warnings and a suspension. He averages around 30 hours a week and makes about 75k.

The ability to fire someone comes down to corporate HR practices. I was a director at two companies in the medical field, one a lab company and one a hospital system.

At the lab company I could fire someone on my own volition. In 8 years, did it twice. Told HR this person was going to be gone by the end of the day, they put together the paperwork and enough said. One guy I actually fired on the spot for refusing to do a specific task that was his to do.

At the hospital system it literally took 6 to 12 months to fire someone, and even then if they "played the game" right you couldn't do it. (which sounds like the situation you describe). I finally gave up trying to fire them and basically worked to make them quit.

[blsfrs]

November has been a big month. Turned the big 70. We celebrated by going on a Rhine River cruise. Basel Switzerland to Nuremburg. Fantastic trip. We just got home yesterday evening, so today is recovery day. Getting used to 6 hour time difference and a day of airplanes and airports.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

That’s no joke where I live. They have a reputation for pulling you over for 1mph over. 4k people in a town with 7 full time city officers.

Welp, that poor little municipality has to make money somehow -

Where is that town, so as I can steer clear of it when I am in Oregon?

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

We can’t even fire our dirtbag at work. Every time he gets there he somehow weasels out. Usually by throwing everyone under the bus. I’ve been here a little over 2 years and he’s had 3 final written warnings and a suspension. He averages around 30 hours a week and makes about 75k.

I will say, my comment was more about people who spend more effort promoting themselves than actually doing the job. Which may or may not apply you your situation.

To your point, my previous company actually kept a few expensive net-negatives around as lay-off fodder. Despite their demonstrated detrimental effect on productivity, it was easier to lay them off in the bad times. The sad part is I think they were in the $150k salary range...

[Lantanafrs2]

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[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Welp, that poor little municipality has to make money somehow -

Where is that town, so as I can steer clear of it when I am in Oregon?

East of Salem about 8 miles on hwy 22 headed towards Bend. It’s off the highway though. They have been hitting that highway hard though. Yesterday they had 7 county motorcycle cops. They pulled over 161 people on the report I read this morning.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

The ability to fire someone comes down to corporate HR practices. I was a director at two companies in the medical field, one a lab company and one a hospital system.

At the lab company I could fire someone on my own volition. In 8 years, did it twice. Told HR this person was going to be gone by the end of the day, they put together the paperwork and enough said. One guy I actually fired on the spot for refusing to do a specific task that was his to do.

At the hospital system it literally took 6 to 12 months to fire someone, and even then if they "played the game" right you couldn't do it. (which sounds like the situation you describe). I finally gave up trying to fire them and basically worked to make them quit.

That’s kinda what’s happening with him. He behaves well enough to make it past the probationary period and then does something dumb. Just Monday he got busted clocking in on his mobile app while not at work. 3 weeks after his last final warning expired….

Originally Posted by Spuds

I will say, my comment was more about people who spend more effort promoting themselves than actually doing the job. Which may or may not apply you your situation.

To your point, my previous company actually kept a few expensive net-negatives around as lay-off fodder. Despite their demonstrated detrimental effect on productivity, it was easier to lay them off in the bad times. The sad part is I think they were in the $150k salary range...

I see that a lot more now that I work at a giant corporation. I swear some guys send emails just to make it look like they are working on something to everyone in leadership in the country. Sometimes I want to reply all and ask why I can’t get something simple fixed instead

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

That’s kinda what’s happening with him. He behaves well enough to make it past the probationary period and then does something dumb. Just Monday he got busted clocking in on his mobile app while not at work. 3 weeks after his last final warning expired….



I see that a lot more now that I work at a giant corporation. I swear some guys send emails just to make it look like they are working on something to everyone in leadership in the country. Sometimes I want to reply all and ask why I can’t get something simple fixed instead

OMG, 35 years working for gubment, don't get me started....

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

OMG, 35 years working for gubment, don't get me started....

lol I don’t think I can begin to compare to that.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

East of Salem about 8 miles on hwy 22 headed towards Bend. It’s off the highway though. They have been hitting that highway hard though. Yesterday they had 7 county motorcycle cops. They pulled over 161 people on the report I read this morning.

Yikes - I'll be sure to blank that area off my map!

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Spuds

I will say, my comment was more about people who spend more effort promoting themselves than actually doing the job. Which may or may not apply you your situation.

To your point, my previous company actually kept a few expensive net-negatives around as lay-off fodder. Despite their demonstrated detrimental effect on productivity, it was easier to lay them off in the bad times. The sad part is I think they were in the $150k salary range...

Where do I apply, I'm qualified? -

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

OMG, 35 years working for gubment, don't get me started....

Oh, just tell us one! -

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Oh, just tell us one! -

Nah, 6 years of trying to forget..

[paynecruz665]

Originally Posted by humfrz

I have found that those things are most important. If you are good at that job, the salary will follow -



Good luck!

That’s no joke where I live. They have a reputation for pulling you over for 1mph over. 4k people in a town with 7 full time city officers.