Tesla Cyber Truck (Most Hideous Truck/Tank Ever)

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Most trucks don't have a high top speed. Fact that it could burn a 911 0-60 or down the road to a quarter mile from a traffic light in real world scenarios means it is appealing to people who want to punk sports car owners. Of course the 911 will be faster on a track or at high speeds because of gearing and aerodynamics, but that isn't really the point.

I remember when the F150 SVT Lightening in the 2000's advertised that it was faster than a Ferrari...not around a track or at top speed. Same thing.

All understood, just pointed out that that's about the only scenario where it's "faster".

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

All understood, just pointed out that that's about the only scenario where it's "faster".

0-60 and quarter mile are marketing points in this country because it is usable for around town and getting on the highway. Most people don't take their car to a track, we don't have an autobahn, and anything faster like having a top speed over 100mph just gets you arrested. For like 99% of people, it is faster in ways that matter. And for truck drivers, the extra performance will be appreciated.

There is also the fact that Tesla made a $100k truck that is faster than a $100k Porsche, but is much heavier. Yes, apples to oranges, but still a dig. For my $100k, I'd rather own the Porsche of course, but still.

Also, from the Hagerty video, there is a market for fast trucks like the F150 SVT Lightning to the TRX today.

[Irace86.2.0]

[wbradley]

I guess this will be the vehicle of choice for urban gangsters or cartel members.
I'm not a gun person, just a skeptic. And I wouldnt be surprised if those rounds are not the most powerful.
Does the market really need more expensive pickup trucks right now? Probably not, since dealer lots are still covered with them and the window stickers have more added lines than Al Capone's rap sheet.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by wbradley

I guess this will be the vehicle of choice for urban gangsters or cartel members.
I'm not a gun person, just a skeptic. And I wouldnt be surprised if those rounds are not the most powerful.
Does the market really need more expensive pickup trucks right now? Probably not, since dealer lots are still covered with them and the window stickers have more added lines than Al Capone's rap sheet.

I mean they show a side by side with a standard vehicle. The metal is considerably thicker. The Glock is shooting a 9mm round. That Tommy Gun is shooting a .45 cal round. The 9mm is moving faster than the .45, so power is about the same from both, which is why the indent is probably similar (more mass and slower vs less mass and slightly faster...E=1/2mv^2). They didn't bring a rifle to the party for good reason. Still, I'm sure a lot of people would rather have that door between them and a car impacting them.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Does the market really need more expensive pickup trucks right now?

That would matter if anyone thought of this as an actual truck. It's a lifestyle "look at me" vehicle.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Still, I'm sure a lot of people would rather have that door between them and a car impacting them.

I certainly would. Standard car door will protect you from a thrown knife but that's about it.

[wbradley]

Well, thankfully where I live the probability of being shot at is quite low. On the other hand, if the skin of the vehicle can improve impact safety then I'm all for it.
We have a local company here Roshel, that builds wheeled personnel carriers/tactical patrol vehicles on modified F550 chassis. Now, THAT vehicle is designed to resist small arms fire. So, maybe that Tesla truck skin can be applied to something where it's really needed. How many people here feel that they need bullet proof doors on their daily driver? Seriously. Aside from law enforcement, I hope not many of you

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

That would matter if anyone thought of this as an actual truck. It's a lifestyle "shoot at me" vehicle.

fify

[wbradley]

I just figured out what it is that bugs me about the looks of the Cybertruck.
First, it looks like it was designed in Minecraft.
Second, it should have been called the DeLorean truck. To me, it resembles one.
I recommend it for the next BTTF movie.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by wbradley

I just figured out what it is that bugs me about the looks of the Cybertruck.
First, it looks like it was designed in Minecraft.
Second, it should have been called the DeLorean truck. To me, it resembles one.
I recommend it for the next BTTF movie.

I think those things are mutually exclusive. It's not cool enough for BTTF. Maybe Biff could drive it.

[wbradley]

Since the Cybertruck took so long to hit production after it's initial reveal, I think the "unobtanium" factor will motivate some people to want to have one. It is almost the poster child for "vehicle of the future".
The guy who publishes the Carwow videos ordered a top model one right after the trip from UK to Cali for the reveal. I'm sure that with around 8M subscribers, he can pay for it too. He bought his mother a Model 3 in the past year as well. YouTube can be very lucrative.

I don't see how the Cybertruck can be anything more than a lifestyle vehicle, the big three and Toyota won't lose out on their mainstream clients. Mind you, with so many pickup trucks on the lots with $60k+ pricetags some people will migrate to Tesla for the wow factor, until it eventually wears off.

More vehicles on the road that can do sub 3s 0-60 times isn't necessarily good for anyone except the car company's profits. Maybe it's my age, but I see that metric as something for immature people...with money to burn.

[bcj]

Same demographic that bought Hummers to drive to the mall.

[alex87f]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

I mean they show a side by side with a standard vehicle. The metal is considerably thicker. The Glock is shooting a 9mm round. That Tommy Gun is shooting a .45 cal round. The 9mm is moving faster than the .45, so power is about the same from both, which is why the indent is probably similar (more mass and slower vs less mass and slightly faster...E=1/2mv^2). They didn't bring a rifle to the party for good reason. Still, I'm sure a lot of people would rather have that door between them and a car impacting them.

I'm not a gun dude but there are different types of bullets. For all we know, they might have been shooting soft-tipped ones. Same with the drag race, it looked like an awfully short strip. And it's supremely easy to affect the outcome, especially in a non-controlled environment, and when you don't publish any figures.

There's also the fact that these trucks will probably fare pretty badly from a pedestrian safety stanpoint (one of the reasons it won't be sold in the EU). They may also make crashes worse for other cars. Last thing we need is a ****-waving contest in an unregulated corner of the automotive market. Then again, it was already happening before the Cybertruck, so..

Still, I kind of like this thing. All automakers describe their new products as blank sheet designs. This actually is one.